Clown Fish Help

[Canadianeh]

I moved my one and only clown fish into my DT last night which already finished cycling.

I noticed that he has not been eating, stay in the top corner and breathing hard. I also notice stringy poo.

What this could be?

 

[shamous113]

 

[shamous113]

have you checked all the levels in the tank? are they the same as your qt? did you dip him before the transfer?

 

[Canadianeh]

Thanks for the chart

He is black and white clown and the colour is fading away under its head. As per the chart suggest, could it be internal bacteria?

I didn't FW dip him

 

[shamous113]

it could be a number of things, what are your ammonia,nitrite,nitrate,ph and temp

 

[Canadianeh]

I am going to measure those parameters tonight

 

[Canadianeh]

It has been more than 3 weeks now and I don't see any improvement on this fish. It keeps swimming sideways and stays on the surface gasping for air. Sometime he list and upside down. I don't know whether he is eating or not. He does not want to eat the smallest pellets, and I have to crush the pellets to smaller crumbs.
I am surprised that he is still going until now. Changing the water didn't seem to help to. Is there a nice painless way to put him to sleep? I feel sorry for him. Paraguard and prazipro don't help too.

 

[AdInfinitum]

Since it would have been fine when you got him...when did it start showing signs of illness? Was it fine in a QT originally? Internal bacterial infections tend to make fish bloat, and swim bladder issues don't tend to be a big problem for clowns...

If you're convinced he's beyond hope and are not comfortable pinching off the spine at the base of the skull...you could put it in a container of tank water and put it in the freezer where it will just go dormant from the dropping temperature before it dies painlessly.

 

[Canadianeh]

Since it would have been fine when you got him...when did it start showing signs of illness? Was it fine in a QT originally? Internal bacterial infections tend to make fish bloat, and swim bladder issues don't tend to be a big problem for clowns...

If you're convinced he's beyond hope and are not comfortable pinching off the spine at the base of the skull...you could put it in a container of tank water and put it in the freezer where it will just go dormant from the dropping temperature before it dies painlessly.

From the first day I got him, he didn't want to eat the same food that came with him. I QT another clown at the same time and he is okay.
I am not sure whether he is in pain or not.

This is how he looks like the whole time.

 

[AdInfinitum]

It's not uncommon for clowns to swim constantly against the glass at odd angels. As long as they have a surface by their belly they are not too concerned with up or down. Most clowns are tank raised so they don't have all of the odd parasite issues that wild caught fish can have...just the usual in-tank bad guys like Ich velvet and Brook. I'm certainly no clown expert like some here so I don't know if tank raised populations have issues from inbreeding yet but they are usually pretty indestructible. Being a new tank I would be wanting to keep a close eye on Ammonia with your first additions.

 

[AdInfinitum]

Oh....and the ammonia checker should be only considered a backup alarm and not a replacement for proper testing as they expire without indication and give inaccurate readings due to numerous factors especially when ph fluctuates.

 

[Canadianeh]

I am doing 5 gallons WC weekly on my 40 gallons tank (minus 30 lbs of rocks and 2 bags of sands) and only have 8 snails and one clown fish in DT right now. I hope the WC keep it in balance.

So you think this balck and white clown is normal? He does not behave like any other clowns I have ever seen anywhere.

I don't know what should I do. He has been in QT for few weeks now with no change

 

[SpongeAl]

If you do ever have a problem with your tank, a 12% water change that you are doing is not enough to dilute issues in a new tank.

Does the fish look normal?

 

[Canadianeh]

If you do ever have a problem with your tank, a 12% water change that you are doing is not enough to dilute issues in a new tank.

Does the fish look normal?

The sick fish in QT and i did 100% WC. I don't have problemnin my DT *knock on wood*

There is no visible scar, bump, discoloration, mucus, and etc on the fish except stringy poop and weird behaviour swimming sideways, belly up, and stay on top

 

[shamous113]

Paraguard and prazipro don't help too.

http://www.hikariusa.com/solutions/healthaid/prazipro/
http://www.seachem.com/paraguard.php
Both of these medications are for parasites, have you used any medication for bacterial infections?

 

[shamous113]

Double post DOOH!!!

 

[Canadianeh]

http://www.hikariusa.com/solutions/healthaid/prazipro/
http://www.seachem.com/paraguard.php
Both of these medications are for parasites, have you used any medication for bacterial infections?

For an example? Those are the only two medications I have

 

[Canadianeh]

http://www.hikariusa.com/solutions/healthaid/prazipro/
http://www.seachem.com/paraguard.php
Both of these medications are for parasites, have you used any medication for bacterial infections?

On the Seachem website it specifically says Paraguard is also for bacterial infections actually

 

[shamous113]

Metronidazole was recommended by @AdInfinitum , he posted this here

On the Seachem website it specifically says Paraguard is also for bacterial infections actually

I don't see that in writing, just a little check box under their description. IMHO if it's not working then you need to switch medication.

"ParaGuard™ is the only fish and filter safe aldehyde based (10% by weight) parasite control product available (for parasites on fish). Unlike highly toxic and difficult to use formalin based medications, ParaGuard™ contains no formaldehyde or methanol and will not alter pH. ParaGuard™ employs a proprietary, synergistic blend of aldehydes, malachite green, and fish protective polymers that effectively and efficiently eradicates many ectoparasites (e.g. ich, etc.) and external fungal/bacterial/viral lesions (e.g., fin rot). It is particularly useful in hospital and receiving tanks for new fish and whenever new fish are introduced to a community tank."

 

[Canadianeh]

Metronidazole was recommended by @AdInfinitum , he posted this here and here


I don't see that in writing, just a little check box under their description. IMHO if it's not working then you need to switch medication.

"ParaGuard™ is the only fish and filter safe aldehyde based (10% by weight) parasite control product available (for parasites on fish). Unlike highly toxic and difficult to use formalin based medications, ParaGuard™ contains no formaldehyde or methanol and will not alter pH. ParaGuard™ employs a proprietary, synergistic blend of aldehydes, malachite green, and fish protective polymers that effectively and efficiently eradicates many ectoparasites (e.g. ich, etc.) and external fungal/bacterial/viral lesions (e.g., fin rot). It is particularly useful in hospital and receiving tanks for new fish and whenever new fish are introduced to a community tank."

He is RIP now.