Cuttlefish Eggs?

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I was informed they have Cuttlefish eggs at BA's Mississauga for $14.99 each. but they require live Mysis shrimp when they hatch. Where would you get these and has anyone had experience with them?

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I bet fresh water ghost shrimp would work. If you power fed the shrimp nutritious food first before you fed, it should work. I used to do that when I had my Octopus. Drip the shrimp over very slowly to full saltwater and power feed before feeding. I started breeding them so I had an assortment of sizes. As for live Mysis shrimp you would have to order online back when i looked i didn't find anyone in Canada they had them. Cuttle fish are for experienced reefers and should not be kept by someone that doesn't have experience or is willing to put all the extra energy into keeping them. They need perfect water quality and lots of food. The tank needs to be completely escape proof.
 

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it is illegal to own or obtain live mysis in canada. ;) only special breeders with permits can get them because you have to treat the exit water as they breed in freshwater and would wreck havoc on lakes and rivers. only hikari brand raise mysis in brackish water to help stop the effects of liver necrosis from eating freshwater food sources.
 

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I watched a video on nat geo and I have to think that they are VERY expensive to feed, I believe that they only eat live and you definitely can't put anything else in the tank, do you want just one fish...
IMHO, I think that it is very irresponsible for a store to sell them or their eggs...
 

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not really, some things are better off left in the ocean... I can't imagine just having one fish in my tank...
when you are in Toronto maybe you could find us a place that sells black worms for my copperband...
 

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it is illegal to own or obtain live mysis in canada. ;) only special breeders with permits can get them because you have to treat the exit water as they breed in freshwater and would wreck havoc on lakes and rivers. only hikari brand raise mysis in brackish water to help stop the effects of liver necrosis from eating freshwater food sources.
Actually the issue with the balance in omega 3's in feeders causing fatty liver degeneration is only poignant regarding feeder fish and fish based foods. The difference in nutritional make up between FW, Brackish and SW crustaceans is negligible. In fact some FW crustacean species carry a more desirable fatty acid makeup as a SW food source than some SW crustacean species.
 

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Actually the issue with the balance in omega 3's in feeders causing fatty liver degeneration is only poignant regarding feeder fish and fish based foods. The difference in nutritional make up between FW, Brackish and SW crustaceans is negligible. In fact some FW crustacean species carry a more desirable fatty acid makeup as a SW food source than some SW crustacean species.

well theres been alot of research and results between different tank bred species using either pe mysis (freshwater bred) and hikari (brackish bred) showing alot more frequent occurence when using freshwater bred over brackish. Yvetterinarian sent me one really good article about it a while ago and have read a few others that even include autopsy reports not only for seahorses but clownfish and others as well.
 

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You can buy live black worms at Dragon Aquarium on Dundas or at a store in Scarborough that used to be called Aquapets. I'm not sure if it's still called that or they changed the name. It's on Silverstar just south of steeles.

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Guy at big Als in Kitchener used to get pounds in all the time but that was years ago. Privately he would @davesolo may have a idea
 

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Even if you could meet the nutritional needs of these beautiful animals you will run into other husbandry issues. The problem with keeping things like cuttle fish and octopus are they are super intelligent and get bored very quickly in the home aquarium. Unless you find a way to keep them stimulated constantly in captivity they will turn their intelligence to finding a way to escape. They will not stop till they do. So it is not a matter of if but when they will escape. All it takes is one slip up or an aquarium that is not totally sealed for them to escape. Then die on your floor.

I agree with Heath this is one of those things that should remain in the Ocean.
 

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But they have the eggs and are selling them. Not to mention all the other living animals that "hobbyist" purchase and have die or killed.

I agree.

But do also find it a bit hypocritical of some to have taken the high moral ground (present Company excluded) on an issue like this but have no issue with tangs in their tanks under 6 or 8 feet long and corals and rocks that have came from who knows where and by what methods. Unless you are using man made rock.

Most if not all the creatures of the oceans are not meant to be confined to the constraint of a small glass box. But I know I have done it and am currently committing the crime of keeping wild ocean creatures in less than optimal conditions.
 

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Think of it this way. Someone on the corner is selling crack does that mean you have to or should buy it? No it doesn't. Just because someone is selling something doesn't mean someone should be buying it. Those eggs should have stayed in the ocean. It is because people buy things they shouldn't be buying that they keep selling them.

I can see your points but it has one big problem. The big difference is cuttle fish and octopus are very intelligent and understand they are confined. Where as a fish or coral doesn't have the cognitive ability to do so and they don't try and escape constantly. They are happy with the food and swimming space you give them. Last time I checked fish and corals can't solve complex problem solving tasks to get at food like Cuttle fish and Octopus can. There is a big difference in keeping something that has complex reasoning skill vs something that doesn't.
 

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someone is going to buy that crack better me than some kid that doesn't have the experience with crack that i do. someone will always buy the crack if its not me then it will be someone else. I don't produce the crack, i don't breed the crack and then sell it for a profit I just use the crack.

Pigs are as smart as dogs but we eat them by the truck load. We frown upon other cultures that eat dogs but is it just us being hypocritical? the cow is sacred in india but we eat beef by the boat load.

If someone sees a starving dog on the street everyone rushes to help it if they see a starving man they scurry away.

shoot a cow no one blinks an eye, shoot a dog and everyone loses their mind
 
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