Chemiclean For Red Slim

[derrick orosz]

Anyone elelse used this, I had some cyano in my fish online system so got this from big Als. I followed the directions to a tee then came home from work the next day and yes all the red slim was gone but all 7 fish in the tank where also dead.

Just wondering if anyone else has had a bad experience with this?

 

[theyangman]

It's been known to cause oxygen depletion in tanks. You need to run an air stone in your tank when treating with chemi clean. Pretty sure it states that in the instructions.

 

[derrick orosz]

Yep it dose and I did

 

[theyangman]

If all the fish died after dosing I'll have to stick with lack of oxygen. All chemiclean is, is a bit anti biotics, tetracycline if I recall.

 

[harleymike]

bummer. i don't use chemicals if i can help it. most things if left alone will run there course. chemicals are usually a quick fix and don't eliminate the cause. sorry it didn't work out.
one thing i have learned, is simple is better, most things will run there course, and natural control is better than chemical.

 

[bart84]

I used it on my old tank and it was fine other then it made my skimmer go nuts

 

[averhoog]

I have used it with great results you are suppose to shut of skimmer while doing it

 

[bart84]

I realized after I forgot to turn it off.

 

[saltyair]

this product and other red slime removers are 100% dangerous for our saltwater aquariums. This is just not a feeling, I have tried this product and red cyano rx (the better of both)

Short term it will clear up some types of cyano - must keep skimmer going and agitate surface.

Here is what happens
it will kill other types of beneficial bacteria allowing other bacteria to overpopulate (good and bad) if you have used these products in the past and your tank isn't what it use to be, this can be 3+ month latter. (testing by microbiologist)

Cyano will come back unfortunately it will also not be easy to kill (especially on the sand) due to resistance to these antibiotics.

I strongly suggest if you have used these products in the past, buy some bacter or other type of bacteria in a bottle to insure that good bacteria levels will recover. I also suggest carbon dosing only after adding bacteria.

Symptoms of cyano rx and chemiclean after effects.

green slime
brown jelly disease
fin rot or other fish bacteria's
sand becomes stagnate

Best way to rid cyano:
increase flow in dead areas
3 day lights out
carbon dose slowly
find source of extra no3,po4 and silica
physical removal
if po4,no3 are very low - 3 days lights out will work, the trick is to keep them low.
check your skimmer
increase sand cuc

 

[Big_Als_London]

If all the fish died after dosing I'll have to stick with lack of oxygen. All chemiclean is, is a bit anti biotics, tetracycline if I recall.

Erythromycin I believe.

 

[Big_Als_London]

Too be honest I have sold a fair amount of this stuff and I have never heard of someone coming back stating that it killed all their fish. Erythromycin is basically fish medication used to treat bacterial diseases so yes it can kill good beneficial bacteria as well. I am sure if overdosed it can be harmful but the amount you put in for red slime is definitely safe.

 

[Pistol]

I've used it with good results and 0 casualties, I suspect either an overdose or not enough aeration

 

[AdInfinitum]

I have used it in past with no problems. Yes it is a short term solution but it can break the cyano cycle to allow other bacteria to compete and buy some time for you to address your "root causes".

 

[curiousphil]

I used this stuff last spring to clean up a bunch of brown jelly cyano that showed up on my rocks. I was after I got my JNS Cone CO-2 skimmer, I remember that, because I left the skimmer running with the lid off, and all the bubbles made quite a mess on the inside of my sump and stand. I started doing a bunch of huge water changes a few days after the initial dose, dosed again after a week or so, followed up with more huge water changes, and afterwards my tank never looked better. I also used a turkey baster and filter socks to blow off and suck out as much of the cyano as possible.

That was easily 8-10 months ago. No losses of coral (sps, lps and soft), no loss of fish, no return of cyano, and the tank is thriving like never before. I would have zero qualms about using it again.

I also have a ton of flow for my tank (somewhere in the range of 60-80x tank turnover via return and powerheads), so that could be part of why I had success (lots of surface agitation+powerful skimmer=very good oxygenation of water).

 

[monizb]

I used it on my old 90 great product never had issue make sure skimmer is off then a water change

 

[derrick orosz]

I guess I just needed more air. ..there's actually one survivor that came out today. The cleaner wrasse

 

[scubasteve]

i allways had cyano problems in my sandbed i added a few extra nassarius snails and aa gold head goby and never seen any since and sandbed allways looks like new and a shrimp or two makes sure every bit of excess food gets eaten one way or another

 

[barebottomcouple]

agree with harleymike and scubasteve its an anti-bacterial which means it kills good bacteria also. very slippery slope. better to control causes through maintenance and husbandry. like Harley said keep it simple cyno is fed by phosphates and dissolved organics eliminate them and cyno will go away

 

[Pistol]

Cyano has been around for a billion years or so and it has become pretty resourseful in that time, sometimes maintenance and husbandry just isn't enough and a little help may be required, sometimes the healthiest people with the best maintenance and husbandry get sick and need to take a pill.

 

[scubasteve]

Cyano has been around for a billion years or so and it has become pretty resourseful in that time, sometimes maintenance and husbandry just isn't enough and a little help may be required, sometimes the healthiest people with the best maintenance and husbandry get sick and need to take a pill.

screw that no doctor just garlic and vitamin c