Collecting Bacteria

[reeferkeeper420]

So as im getting ready to start cooking rock ive put on a filter and stuffed sponges in it so i can collect so kind of bacteria to hopefully help with any ammonia. How long will it take to build up bacteria in the sponges?

 

[EricTMah]

What and how do you plan to "cook" your rocks?

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[reeferkeeper420]

In containers with saltwater

 

[EricTMah]

Nothing else?
You do realize that there is a ton of bacteria living in the rock itself.
More than you'll ever be able to "collect" in any filter

If you use anything like miriatic acid, that you're just killing the bacteria anyways.

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[reeferkeeper420]

Nothing else?
You do realize that there is a ton of bacteria living in the rock itself.
More than you'll ever be able to "collect" in any filter

If you use anything like miriatic acid, that you're just killing the bacteria anyways.

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Sorry this is my first time doing this, so wht do you mean by nothing else? I need to get all the p04 and what not out of my rock, and my fish will still be in the tank during this process. So im trying to build up bacteria in the sponges so i can help keep ammonia down in the tank while the rocks are gone.

 

[EricTMah]

Ah I see.
I thought you meant using the canister filters while curing the rock. Your post wasn't totally clear on that.

I'd leave the canister on for at least a couple of days before removing all rock. Then you should be fine in the tank

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[Nonuser]

I have these in my sump they have blocks as well. Would get some and forget the canister

 

[scubasteve]

Used carbon will hold a crap ton of bacteria.... as long as it wasnt in system too long it shouldnt cause a big issue. One pinch of carbon is equal to a football field of surface area for bacteria.

 

[reeferkeeper420]

So i should change out my carbon before removing the rocks and keep it running during this period of no rocks in the tank?

 

[scubasteve]

id change it about a week before so it builds up a bit. then just keep running it. when time comes to change just change half at a time and that will help eliminate large spikes during switch

 

[Nonuser]

but the Marine pure has a ton of area and it wont cause issues like carbon. cheaper and more effective.

http://www.cermedia.com/marinepure-faq.php

 

[unibob]

I think he meant GAC (granulated activated carbon)

Doesn't get much cheaper then this. However being that it removes toxins from water, I don't recommend using it to " hold bacteria" as you will be holding toxins...no?


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[reeferkeeper420]

Should.i still run gfo while my tank is rockless?

 

[Sewerat]

What for? Fish don't produce phosphate do they?

 

[reeferkeeper420]

I thought they did, but i have no clue.

 

[Sewerat]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I think fish produce ammonia that changes to nitrites that changes to nitrates. Phosphate comes from the leeching effect from land masses. Aka your rocks

Phosphate is required by plants to produce cells and animals that eat those cells will use for own use or expell But I'm no scientist

 

[heath]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I think fish produce ammonia that changes to nitrites that changes to nitrates. Phosphate comes from the leeching effect from land masses. Aka your rocks

Phosphate is required by plants to produce cells and animals that eat those cells will use for own use or expell But I'm no scientist

I'm with you or that's the premise that I go on too...

 

[reeferkeeper420]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I think fish produce ammonia that changes to nitrites that changes to nitrates. Phosphate comes from the leeching effect from land masses. Aka your rocks

Phosphate is required by plants to produce cells and animals that eat those cells will use for own use or expell But I'm no scientist

You sir are correct, rocks, tap water, and salt mixes or other additives can create it. Good to know one less thing to run and have to pay for lol.

 

[unibob]

Phosphates in the food we feed. You feed the fish, your adding phosphates.

So yes, you can run GFO. However it's not needed at all, algae growing in tank is free fish food for tangs. I would be doing BIG water changes before corals come back, so any phosphates you do have the build up can be removed doing water changes.

Decent read on phosphates:

http://www.algone.com/the-cause-and-effect-of-phosphates-in-the-aquarium



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[Sewerat]

So starve the fish too then. Win win. Lol