High,High,High PH and DKH

Jewel

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I'm expecting a Doser soon and will be Doser Tropic Maron Balling Salts, But my levels have been a bit low Calcium 380, DKH 7, PH 8.0  So I thought I'd get some B-ionic to bump it up so I could maintain while dosing. I went to the BRS site Calculator and it said to go from 380-420 I should ad 246 ML and to go from 7 dkh-9 dkh to aD 100 ML OF THE OTHER 2 PART, mIND YOU I WAS USING THERE MIXED 2 PART FOR THE INGREDIENTS AND NOT b-IONIC. aND YES I THOUGHT IT WAS A BIT STRANGE NOT TO AD AN EVEN AMOUNT OF BOTH BUT I CHECKED IT 3 TIMES, mY ph has risen to 8.65.

I dosed these two amounts over the course of 2 days to be safe. Now my Corals aren't opening fully but they don't look to bad really, My Calc is at 400. I'm gonna do a 25 percent water change today and test tomorrow, What do you think.
 

nexusnight

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slow and steady, split up the doses more? i dose twice a day right now a total of 80ml a day equal parts. when i was bumping up up my levels i noticed corals took a few days to adjust then looked great if not better.
If your doing a water change make sure the water is where you want your levels to be.
 

spyd

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Yes, what is your ALK at now? Raising ALK higher than 1 dkh / day can be dangerous. Any time you dose alk, your ph will increase. Dosing alk during lights out is best as that is when your ph is at the lowest level. Water changes will help lower your alk levels. Just be sure not to lower too quickly either.
 

unibob

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When you get your tropic Marin, you will have complete dosing instructions . Using the 2 part calculator for bionic wouldn't work as each product is made to its own "purity and dilution"

I think BRS has the calculator for bionic as well as it is a popular product and I believe they do sell it.

Tropic Marin takes the guess work out, and is balanced for each element.
 

Duke

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They should all be very similar since your going for a saturated as possible while still being able to dissolve into water..  There's no way b ionic could be stronger if anything happens I would bet it's weaker so u have to buy more .
 

unibob

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Duke link said:
They should all be very similar since your going for a saturated as possible while still being able to dissolve into water..  There's no way b ionic could be stronger if anything happens I would bet it's weaker so u have to buy more .

Haven't put any numbers in yet as I'm just on phone, but someone can try this site. I would be interested to see.

http://reef.diesyst.com/flashcalc/flashcalc.html

Duke- it would make sense what you say, but I'm not to sure.
 

Jewel

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My levels now are Calc 400, DKH 13, PH 8.65, I'm still filling for a water change and won't due it tonight cause I like to mix over night.  The Corals are fine just didn't work out like I wanted it to,
 

Duke

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thats good to hear Jewel,

uniboob, thought it would.. i guess not tho.. the esv b ionic stuff uses almost half the dose for the Calcium part and triple the dose for alk compared to randys or brs or bulk additives.. weird.. i wonder how they get more calcium to saturate the solution but the alk portion is really weak..
 

Duke

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its high.. but its done now.. so trying to "fix" it is probably worse.. its not high high by any means.
 

curiousphil

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damn! 13 dkh is super high.  thats a change of 6  dkh in one day.  some people have reported mass rtn events on as little as a 2-3 dkh swing in 24 hours.

Sorry, i dont have any solution for you though.  as duke says you would probably do more harm than good in trying to fix it.  i'm no pro but i would say don't dose  thing until that dkh valur comes down on its own to a more reasonable # like 7-9.  And depending on the salt you use, doing a water change could have the same effect as dosing alk, as I think has just happened to you.  I know that instant ocean mixes around 12 dkh.
 

harleymike

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I have my doser set for every hour. That way it is more consistant and not a large amount at once.
My alk rose too 12.5 once and it was fine. You should be alright. Just do your water change.
 

Jewel

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No Acros, LPS and a clam, I do have some SPS but just Grn Bird Nest, Purple Digitata and a small GRN Dragon frag, When I get my Doser it'll be set up for hourly dosing as well.
 

Jewel

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Update  I did a 25 percent water change this afternoon, testing at 9pm shows DKH 9, Calcium 400, PH 8.4  Everything is fine, no problems, Whew looks like I dodged another one, Thanks for your help.
 
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