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theyangman

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Salty Cracker link said:
sony also was its own worst enemy when it came to media.  The betamax was a superior product, but the way sony protected it, and wanted $$$ for every beta cassette produced, ensured its failure against the VHS that you could make royalty-free.  I do believe there was something similar in the DAT tape, the minidisc and a few other failed proprietary formats (I can't recall them anymore but I used to follow the successes and failures of sony).    Ironic when they make such good money off of consoles...something they copied from other companies. 

As for the walkman, they -should- have had the first and best MP3 player on the market, but if I had to bet, it would have been the inherent copy-ability of mp3s that would have put them off.  \"how do you copyright something that has to be copied to exist?\". 

Dor the record, I loved my 20lb, shoulder sling, 4 battery sony walkman.  I was sorry when it died, but akai came along and made a lighter one with a built in slider EQ.  Awesome. 

Sony was probably hesitant of making a product that pretty much at the time encouraged people to rip music from cds and other sources to play on a new portable system. Considering they have a fairly large stake in the recording industry it would be them almost condoning copying music (which would obviously lead to sharing illegally). So I can understand their hesitation which ultimately lead to them being late too the MP3 party.
 

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theyangman link said:
[quote author=Poseidon link=topic=6258.msg67766#msg67766 date=1384270826]
main reason im not ordering any of the new units, the xbox one OR the ps4 is that they are not back compatible...
so what i have to have 2 systems operating? thats friken stupid... making my large collection of 360 games obsolete is just retarded... if i can still say that word

Backwards compatibility is not a feature that is an inherent right with new console owners. It would be nice, but would just cause more issues than it is worth. If anyone remembers the old 60 gig PS3's and the slew of issues they had with playing PS2 games? Trying to run older games on new hardware simply limits the new consoles ability to process new software as it would merely be a "upgraded" hardware that can still run old games but still run new games somehow. It is a logistical mess that isn't that big of a deal.

My Gamecube wasn't backwards compatible with my NES, N64, or SNES etc... Stop your whining. If that is the only reason holding you back then that is pretty weak excuse.

Buying a new next gen console, is to play new games on new hardware, not for playing older games. You can plug your PS3 or xbox 360 back in at any time and run it. It is two cords. One power, one HDMI. Not that big of a deal to have to haul it back out to play the games you own on 360 if you want to play them that badly. And that being said you can just leave it plugged in if you would find yourself playing it that much in the first place. I have no idea how that makes your collection obsolete by any stretch of the imagination. Having two consoles on your tv stand cannot be as horrendous as you make it out to be... By your definition it is also fricken stupid that I cannot play 360 games on my PS3. Such bullshit that I need to have two consoles to be able to play the exclusive titles for each.... ZOMG, my life is over.....
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geez calm down bud, simply stating my opinion, owned a xbox 360 for years, not willing to throw it out the window to buy a new system just because its new and has a few things a bit better... maybe in a couple years when there is a decent library of games, but not now....
and i dont have the room or cash to own two systems, and build two collections of games.

and your example 'by your definition blah blah cant play ps3 on xbox 360 blah blah... dumbest example ive ever heard.
wasnt remotely my point or anything closely related to it at all.
 

theyangman

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Salty Cracker link said:
[quote author=theyangman link=topic=6258.msg67782#msg67782 date=1384273827]
[quote author=Poseidon link=topic=6258.msg67766#msg67766 date=1384270826]
main reason im not ordering any of the new units, the xbox one OR the ps4 is that they are not back compatible...
so what i have to have 2 systems operating? thats friken stupid... making my large collection of 360 games obsolete is just retarded... if i can still say that word

Backwards compatibility is not a feature that is an inherent right with new console owners. It would be nice, but would just cause more issues than it is worth. If anyone remembers the old 60 gig PS3's and the slew of issues they had with playing PS2 games? Trying to run older games on new hardware simply limits the new consoles ability to process new software as it would merely be a "upgraded" hardware that can still run old games but still run new games somehow. It is a logistical mess that isn't that big of a deal.

My Gamecube wasn't backwards compatible with my NES, N64, or SNES etc... Stop your whining. If that is the only reason holding you back then that is pretty weak excuse.

Buying a new next gen console, is to play new games on new hardware, not for playing older games. You can plug your PS3 or xbox 360 back in at any time and run it. It is two cords. One power, one HDMI. Not that big of a deal to have to haul it back out to play the games you own on 360 if you want to play them that badly. And that being said you can just leave it plugged in if you would find yourself playing it that much in the first place. I have no idea how that makes your collection obsolete by any stretch of the imagination. Having two consoles on your tv stand cannot be as horrendous as you make it out to be... By your definition it is also fricken stupid that I cannot play 360 games on my PS3. Such bullshit that I need to have two consoles to be able to play the exclusive titles for each.... ZOMG, my life is over.....
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plus...AS IF sony would allow their games to be played on another platform, and vice versa.

So you buying the sony because it's asian? I mean, ALLLL the kewl kids are getting xbox one. 
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Buying a PS4 because the exclusive list of PS4 titles looks very strong going forward. Stronger than that of xbox one in fact.
 

theyangman

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Poseidon link said:
[quote author=theyangman link=topic=6258.msg67782#msg67782 date=1384273827]
[quote author=Poseidon link=topic=6258.msg67766#msg67766 date=1384270826]
main reason im not ordering any of the new units, the xbox one OR the ps4 is that they are not back compatible...
so what i have to have 2 systems operating? thats friken stupid... making my large collection of 360 games obsolete is just retarded... if i can still say that word

Backwards compatibility is not a feature that is an inherent right with new console owners. It would be nice, but would just cause more issues than it is worth. If anyone remembers the old 60 gig PS3's and the slew of issues they had with playing PS2 games? Trying to run older games on new hardware simply limits the new consoles ability to process new software as it would merely be a "upgraded" hardware that can still run old games but still run new games somehow. It is a logistical mess that isn't that big of a deal.

My Gamecube wasn't backwards compatible with my NES, N64, or SNES etc... Stop your whining. If that is the only reason holding you back then that is pretty weak excuse.

Buying a new next gen console, is to play new games on new hardware, not for playing older games. You can plug your PS3 or xbox 360 back in at any time and run it. It is two cords. One power, one HDMI. Not that big of a deal to have to haul it back out to play the games you own on 360 if you want to play them that badly. And that being said you can just leave it plugged in if you would find yourself playing it that much in the first place. I have no idea how that makes your collection obsolete by any stretch of the imagination. Having two consoles on your tv stand cannot be as horrendous as you make it out to be... By your definition it is also fricken stupid that I cannot play 360 games on my PS3. Such bullshit that I need to have two consoles to be able to play the exclusive titles for each.... ZOMG, my life is over.....
[/quote]

geez calm down bud, simply stating my opinion, owned a xbox 360 for years, not willing to throw it out the window to buy a new system just because its new and has a few things a bit better... maybe in a couple years when there is a decent library of games, but not now....
and i dont have the room or cash to own two systems, and build two collections of games.

and your example 'by your definition blah blah cant play ps3 on xbox 360 blah blah... dumbest example ive ever heard.
wasnt remotely my point or anything closely related to it at all.
[/quote]

Lol, it was meant to be an exaggeration, laced with sarcasm poking fun at you whining that your 360 games won't work on the xbox one.

They are two different systems, merely released by the same company. Technology marches forward and old technology becomes obsolete. It is just the way things go.
 

Poseidon

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theyangman link said:
[quote author=Poseidon link=topic=6258.msg67785#msg67785 date=1384274707]
[quote author=theyangman link=topic=6258.msg67782#msg67782 date=1384273827]
[quote author=Poseidon link=topic=6258.msg67766#msg67766 date=1384270826]
main reason im not ordering any of the new units, the xbox one OR the ps4 is that they are not back compatible...
so what i have to have 2 systems operating? thats friken stupid... making my large collection of 360 games obsolete is just retarded... if i can still say that word

Backwards compatibility is not a feature that is an inherent right with new console owners. It would be nice, but would just cause more issues than it is worth. If anyone remembers the old 60 gig PS3's and the slew of issues they had with playing PS2 games? Trying to run older games on new hardware simply limits the new consoles ability to process new software as it would merely be a "upgraded" hardware that can still run old games but still run new games somehow. It is a logistical mess that isn't that big of a deal.

My Gamecube wasn't backwards compatible with my NES, N64, or SNES etc... Stop your whining. If that is the only reason holding you back then that is pretty weak excuse.

Buying a new next gen console, is to play new games on new hardware, not for playing older games. You can plug your PS3 or xbox 360 back in at any time and run it. It is two cords. One power, one HDMI. Not that big of a deal to have to haul it back out to play the games you own on 360 if you want to play them that badly. And that being said you can just leave it plugged in if you would find yourself playing it that much in the first place. I have no idea how that makes your collection obsolete by any stretch of the imagination. Having two consoles on your tv stand cannot be as horrendous as you make it out to be... By your definition it is also fricken stupid that I cannot play 360 games on my PS3. Such bullshit that I need to have two consoles to be able to play the exclusive titles for each.... ZOMG, my life is over.....
[/quote]

geez calm down bud, simply stating my opinion, owned a xbox 360 for years, not willing to throw it out the window to buy a new system just because its new and has a few things a bit better... maybe in a couple years when there is a decent library of games, but not now....
and i dont have the room or cash to own two systems, and build two collections of games.

and your example 'by your definition blah blah cant play ps3 on xbox 360 blah blah... dumbest example ive ever heard.
wasnt remotely my point or anything closely related to it at all.
[/quote]

Lol, it was meant to be an exaggeration, laced with sarcasm poking fun at you whining that your 360 games won't work on the xbox one.

They are two different systems, merely released by the same company. Technology marches forward and old technology becomes obsolete. It is just the way things go.

[/quote]

exactly, and its not a bad thing, i just wont be in line to buy because its not backwards compatible,
i know they are doing a trade up program, on both ps3 and xbox 360, if you buy a new title for the old systems you can upgrade for like 10$ to the new system title.
 

theyangman

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Poseidon link said:
[quote author=theyangman link=topic=6258.msg67789#msg67789 date=1384275017]
[quote author=Poseidon link=topic=6258.msg67785#msg67785 date=1384274707]
[quote author=theyangman link=topic=6258.msg67782#msg67782 date=1384273827]
[quote author=Poseidon link=topic=6258.msg67766#msg67766 date=1384270826]
main reason im not ordering any of the new units, the xbox one OR the ps4 is that they are not back compatible...
so what i have to have 2 systems operating? thats friken stupid... making my large collection of 360 games obsolete is just retarded... if i can still say that word

Backwards compatibility is not a feature that is an inherent right with new console owners. It would be nice, but would just cause more issues than it is worth. If anyone remembers the old 60 gig PS3's and the slew of issues they had with playing PS2 games? Trying to run older games on new hardware simply limits the new consoles ability to process new software as it would merely be a "upgraded" hardware that can still run old games but still run new games somehow. It is a logistical mess that isn't that big of a deal.

My Gamecube wasn't backwards compatible with my NES, N64, or SNES etc... Stop your whining. If that is the only reason holding you back then that is pretty weak excuse.

Buying a new next gen console, is to play new games on new hardware, not for playing older games. You can plug your PS3 or xbox 360 back in at any time and run it. It is two cords. One power, one HDMI. Not that big of a deal to have to haul it back out to play the games you own on 360 if you want to play them that badly. And that being said you can just leave it plugged in if you would find yourself playing it that much in the first place. I have no idea how that makes your collection obsolete by any stretch of the imagination. Having two consoles on your tv stand cannot be as horrendous as you make it out to be... By your definition it is also fricken stupid that I cannot play 360 games on my PS3. Such bullshit that I need to have two consoles to be able to play the exclusive titles for each.... ZOMG, my life is over.....
[/quote]

geez calm down bud, simply stating my opinion, owned a xbox 360 for years, not willing to throw it out the window to buy a new system just because its new and has a few things a bit better... maybe in a couple years when there is a decent library of games, but not now....
and i dont have the room or cash to own two systems, and build two collections of games.

and your example 'by your definition blah blah cant play ps3 on xbox 360 blah blah... dumbest example ive ever heard.
wasnt remotely my point or anything closely related to it at all.
[/quote]

Lol, it was meant to be an exaggeration, laced with sarcasm poking fun at you whining that your 360 games won't work on the xbox one.

They are two different systems, merely released by the same company. Technology marches forward and old technology becomes obsolete. It is just the way things go.

[/quote]

exactly, and its not a bad thing, i just wont be in line to buy because its not backwards compatible,
i know they are doing a trade up program, on both ps3 and xbox 360, if you buy a new title for the old systems you can upgrade for like 10$ to the new system title.
[/quote]

Seeee! That is much better than backwards compatibility. You're getting the SAME game that is now been designed to run on the new hardware, giving you a WAAAY better experience.

Can we hug now and make up?
 

Poseidon

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theyangman link said:
[quote author=Poseidon link=topic=6258.msg67790#msg67790 date=1384275164]
[quote author=theyangman link=topic=6258.msg67789#msg67789 date=1384275017]
[quote author=Poseidon link=topic=6258.msg67785#msg67785 date=1384274707]
[quote author=theyangman link=topic=6258.msg67782#msg67782 date=1384273827]
[quote author=Poseidon link=topic=6258.msg67766#msg67766 date=1384270826]
main reason im not ordering any of the new units, the xbox one OR the ps4 is that they are not back compatible...
so what i have to have 2 systems operating? thats friken stupid... making my large collection of 360 games obsolete is just retarded... if i can still say that word

Backwards compatibility is not a feature that is an inherent right with new console owners. It would be nice, but would just cause more issues than it is worth. If anyone remembers the old 60 gig PS3's and the slew of issues they had with playing PS2 games? Trying to run older games on new hardware simply limits the new consoles ability to process new software as it would merely be a "upgraded" hardware that can still run old games but still run new games somehow. It is a logistical mess that isn't that big of a deal.

My Gamecube wasn't backwards compatible with my NES, N64, or SNES etc... Stop your whining. If that is the only reason holding you back then that is pretty weak excuse.

Buying a new next gen console, is to play new games on new hardware, not for playing older games. You can plug your PS3 or xbox 360 back in at any time and run it. It is two cords. One power, one HDMI. Not that big of a deal to have to haul it back out to play the games you own on 360 if you want to play them that badly. And that being said you can just leave it plugged in if you would find yourself playing it that much in the first place. I have no idea how that makes your collection obsolete by any stretch of the imagination. Having two consoles on your tv stand cannot be as horrendous as you make it out to be... By your definition it is also fricken stupid that I cannot play 360 games on my PS3. Such bullshit that I need to have two consoles to be able to play the exclusive titles for each.... ZOMG, my life is over.....
[/quote]

geez calm down bud, simply stating my opinion, owned a xbox 360 for years, not willing to throw it out the window to buy a new system just because its new and has a few things a bit better... maybe in a couple years when there is a decent library of games, but not now....
and i dont have the room or cash to own two systems, and build two collections of games.

and your example 'by your definition blah blah cant play ps3 on xbox 360 blah blah... dumbest example ive ever heard.
wasnt remotely my point or anything closely related to it at all.
[/quote]

Lol, it was meant to be an exaggeration, laced with sarcasm poking fun at you whining that your 360 games won't work on the xbox one.

They are two different systems, merely released by the same company. Technology marches forward and old technology becomes obsolete. It is just the way things go.

[/quote]

exactly, and its not a bad thing, i just wont be in line to buy because its not backwards compatible,
i know they are doing a trade up program, on both ps3 and xbox 360, if you buy a new title for the old systems you can upgrade for like 10$ to the new system title.
[/quote]

Seeee! That is much better than backwards compatibility. You're getting the SAME game that is now been designed to run on the new hardware, giving you a WAAAY better experience.

Can we hug now and make up?
[/quote]

not real big on hugs.. maybe a hand shake and a beer though, lol
 

theyangman

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Lol, it is a different game now Glen, check out the car list:

Racer Path:

2012 Aston Martin Vanquish
2013 Audi R8 V10 Plus
2010 BMW M3 GTS
2014 Chevrolet Corvette C7 Stingray
2012 Dodge Challenger SRT8 392
2011 Ferrari 458 Spider
2011 Ferrari 599 GTO
2002 Ferrari Enzo
2012 Ferrari F12 Berlinetta
2005 Ford GT
2013 Ford Mustang GT
2013 Lamborghini Aventador LP720-4 50th Anniversario
2013 Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera Edizione Tecnica
2013 Lamborghini Veneno
2011 Maserati GranTurismo MC Stradale 
2013 McLaren MP4-12C Spider
2013 McLaren P1
2013 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Black Series
2012 Pagani Huayra
2013 Porsche 911 GT3
2014 Porsche 918 Spyder
2013 Porsche 981 Cayman S
2014 SRT Viper Time Attack

Cop Path:

2010 Aston Martin One-77
2012 Aston Martin Vanquish
2012 Bentley Continental GT
2013 BMW M6 Coupe (F13)
2011 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Super Sport
2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
2012 Dodge Charger SRT8
2010 Ferrari 458 Italia
2011 Ferrari FF
2013 Ford Shelby GT500
2012 Hennessey Venom GT
2012 Koenigsegg Agera R
2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4
2013 Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4
2010 Lexus LFA
2012 Marussia B2
2011 McLaren MP4-12C
2012 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Black Series
2012 Nissan GT-R Black Edition (R35)
2013 Porsche 911 Turbo
2005 Porsche Carrera GT
2013 SRT Viper GTS


This isn't need for speed underground, kiddie shit man. They acquired some serious licensing for this game.
 

Big_Als_London

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theyangman link said:
Lol, it is a different game now Glen, check out the car list:

Racer Path:

2012 Aston Martin Vanquish
2013 Audi R8 V10 Plus
2010 BMW M3 GTS
2014 Chevrolet Corvette C7 Stingray
2012 Dodge Challenger SRT8 392
2011 Ferrari 458 Spider
2011 Ferrari 599 GTO
2002 Ferrari Enzo
2012 Ferrari F12 Berlinetta
2005 Ford GT
2013 Ford Mustang GT
2013 Lamborghini Aventador LP720-4 50th Anniversario
2013 Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera Edizione Tecnica
2013 Lamborghini Veneno
2011 Maserati GranTurismo MC Stradale 
2013 McLaren MP4-12C Spider
2013 McLaren P1
2013 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Black Series
2012 Pagani Huayra
2013 Porsche 911 GT3
2014 Porsche 918 Spyder
2013 Porsche 981 Cayman S
2014 SRT Viper Time Attack

Cop Path:

2010 Aston Martin One-77
2012 Aston Martin Vanquish
2012 Bentley Continental GT
2013 BMW M6 Coupe (F13)
2011 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Super Sport
2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
2012 Dodge Charger SRT8
2010 Ferrari 458 Italia
2011 Ferrari FF
2013 Ford Shelby GT500
2012 Hennessey Venom GT
2012 Koenigsegg Agera R
2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4
2013 Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4
2010 Lexus LFA
2012 Marussia B2
2011 McLaren MP4-12C
2012 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Black Series
2012 Nissan GT-R Black Edition (R35)
2013 Porsche 911 Turbo
2005 Porsche Carrera GT
2013 SRT Viper GTS


This isn't need for speed underground, kiddie shit man. They acquired some serious licensing for this game.
Im coming over to play
 

theyangman

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Ha ha ha ha. It is gonna be wild.

There are gonna be some crazy games coming out for ps4 in the coming year. I haven't bought a console brand new since SNES. This should be a trip. (I have owned almost all of the others just well after their initial launches is all)
 

Big_Als_London

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Ha ha ha ha. It is gonna be wild.

There are gonna be some crazy games coming out for ps4 in the coming year. I haven't bought a console brand new since SNES. This should be a trip. (I have owned almost all of the others just well after their initial launches is all)
The only console I havent had in the last little while was a ps3.  I went Xbox 360. I wish I went with the ps3 though.  Maybe I can sell a bunch of crap to be able to afford a new system.
 

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Oh noes!  Little dirty Kadri out for a dirty hit (should be for 2 dirty hits). 

(Sorry I really dislike Kadri.  I saw him in a restaurant when he was with knights, he's a dooooooooshbag (yes yes I know it's douche) of the nth order.  Sideways cap, yelling at waitresses and doing the "what are YOU lookin' at" and stuff like that.  I was tempted to let that 150lb squirt know what I was looking at).   

My dentist is his uncle or cousin and I have to be all nice when he's gouging away at my teeth with that pointy poky thing.  Lord knows what would happen if he saw my tattoo.  He's actually an awesome dentist :)
 

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meh he deserved the 3 games at least , im not a big fan of him, makes terrible plays and always ends up in the box at key moments in the game,
 

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Poseidon link said:
meh he deserved the 3 games at least , im not a big fan of him, makes terrible plays and always ends up in the box at key moments in the game,

Yep, you got rid of Komisarek and got a new, smaller version with a bigger ego.  Well, Now he has a 'history' with Shanahan.  Every judgement will get worse  from now on. 

GO BRUINS! 
 
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