Ich

100gallon

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Ok need some advice here. All of my fish died a few weeks back from ich. However my sand sifting goby and one pj are healthier than ever and won't go in the trap for me to put into qt. I know I need to go 5 or 6 weeks fallow however what do I do about the two lone soldiers left? They have absolutely no signs of sickness. Do I leave them in and qt all new fish I get? Or will the ich still thrive even though I can't see any signs?

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monizb

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I would catch and qt them for sure and a good water change for next few weeks my dad lost all his fish last year do to ich all he had was one clown and a purple reef lobster he took them out and place just in a small tank for a month and we did water changes for few weeks and clown and lobster are happy till today :)
 

scubasteve

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if you read up on ich it is proven that you can not fully get rid of ich it is in every body of water including tap. ich gets a foothold on already stressed fish if unstressed the slime coat keeps it away so i would be double checking params or make sure he is eating well.... if you have any algae at all then your params are not zero as they willshow.

i allways lower temp a bit to help hold oxygen and garlic guard all food
 

Reef Hero

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if you read up on ich it is proven that you can not fully get rid of ich it is in every body of water including tap. ich gets a foothold on already stressed fish if unstressed the slime coat keeps it away so i would be double checking params or make sure he is eating well.... if you have any algae at all then your params are not zero as they willshow.

i allways lower temp a bit to help hold oxygen and garlic guard all food

Hmmmm.... I'm going to have to disagree with a few things you have mentioned here....
Where did you read that parasites causing ich are naturally found in all bodies of water?
Which Params are you referring to? Ammonia and nitrites? These are about the only two which should be reading zero....
And lastly lower temp a bit is not really required..... Unless you are going to drastically change the temp, it is going to have very little effect on the dissolved oxygen. That being said, dissolved oxygen does play a major role but there are many more better ways to increase the oxygen in your water column.

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100gallon

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Cysts burst and release new parasites I get that. But I thought with no host fish the cycle can't continue?

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100gallon

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Ya cause if I read the article right they feed for 5 _7 days then fall off to sand bed. Burst. Then thousands of babies look for host fish and cycle continues. My issue Is that the two I can't catch are still in dt and I can't catch them. If I had ich would it not make the two remaining fish sick at some point and kill them?

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heath

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depends on the fish, my thoughts are if the fish have scales then its harder for ich to penetrate as apposed to skin..and some fish are far more resistant to ich..what kind of fish are left in the tank ?
 

theyangman

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Ich is not necessarily a death sentance.

There is the school of thought that ich resides in our tanks and in certain fish at all times. Stress from whatever source (other fish, water quality, food issues etc...) can lower the fish's ability to resist the ich that is inside of the fish and it triggers the normally "dormant" ich into an outbreak on that fish which then becomes a visable issue. How it is treated from there is up to you. Some say hypo salinity, other say garlic-y food, and some even say just regular quarantine with some meds, whatever you poison is, there are many
"cures" to ich.

The other say there are ways to permenantly stamp it out and fix it. Usually through hypo salinity for weeks on end in QT while the lifecycle of any remnants die off in your display tank.

This is one of those topics that I don't think we fully understand yet, and without a full understanding comes the inability to recomend a proper "cure" or "treatment". All we have are a grab bag of things that people have tried and had varying sucess with, but as with everything in this hobby we have to take other peoples results with a grain of salt. What worked for them might not work for us. When someone says X-treatment doesn't work, how do we know they did it properly? What is properly? It is hard to tell to say the least lol, and there are a million variables.
 

scubasteve

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all i know is my fish dont ever have ich except the first week after transport if i even see it at all and after 1.5 years of ich free fish the only outbreak i had was in one tang when i moved to a different tank that wasnt fully ready during the leak ive only ever lost 2 fish from ich both were tangs and 6 others on arrival but was gone within a week and no extra losses.... id say thats a pretty good understanding of the ich control lol
 
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