question bout reactors and my new dosing regime

[crazybizzle]

okay im about to start some neo zeo media in reactor/ and dosing of mb7,biofuel,coral kolour,and aa's, my question is with doing this should i take down my brs reactor that is running gfo and reef carbon before i start this?  considering the stuff mentioned above is for removal of the bad stuff which the brs reactor is for to? i just dont want to have any adverse effects or extra blooms.

 

[pulpfiction1]

when i was vodka dosing as well as using the current bio-pellets,what i read was not to run GFO as these will lower phosphates via your skimmer,carbon is used to remove some toxins as well as polishing (clarifying) the water,unless you think it will remove any of the products you are usung i dont see an issue with running carbon

 

[crazybizzle]

So i should remove my gfo, now the bio fuel is a carbon identical to vodka,  im just wondering if dosing that and still runnung my carbon in the reactor will be carbon overkill

 

[pulpfiction1]

i don't think your carbon in the reactor is the same as carbon dosing so no over kill in that respect,i didn't run the gfo and still dont,i do use some additives from time to time like essential elements,iodine,etc and carbon will remove these as well as any medications you might need to use,so i dont use carbon to ofter either,you gonna have to keep us informed as to how well this dosing regime works out,the setup cal has is very impressive as well

 

[phi delt reefer]

So i should remove my gfo, now the bio fuel is a carbon identical to vodka,  im just wondering if dosing that and still runnung my carbon in the reactor will be carbon overkill

two different carbons you have there.

biofuel/vodka/MB&/sugar/vinegar is a food source for your good bactera.
the carbon in a carbon reactor is a water polisher - it absorbs the "nasties" in the water.

you should dose your food source and run carbon in a reactor to help buffer the water.

 

[crazybizzle]

Ok thanks guys...is it ok to run my neo zeo pellets in my brs dual reactor one chamber being pellets and other being carbon or put the pellets in my single reactor. Would prefer the dual considering its already hooked up and space is getting limited to put in the single.

 

[pulpfiction1]

I'm reading mixed reviews on it,i guess it would mostly depend on how well they tumble together in the reactor

 

[crazybizzle]

Its a real slow flow for 2 weeks 25gph than every 2 up it by 25 till u hit 100 gph

 

[phi delt reefer]

is your brs reactor mounted?

I think you need to shake those rocks every once in a while... too much work for me, lol. If i cant keep keep sps with just water changes, mb7/pellets and two part then i am tearing this sucker down.

 

[crazybizzle]

Ya its mounted wont be hard to shake up if i have to. ive got no prob keeping any coral right now i just want to have a super clean algae free tank with more coral colour by doing this method. It seems to work and vastly improve everything from whar ive read and seen on other forums

 

[Blob-79]

pretty sure the zeo method requires daily stirring of the media. Not sure you will be able to stir them well enouph just by giving it a shake. I know when my bio pellets clump up, a little shake does nothing.

 

[teebone110]

What you need to do is remove both media from your BRS reactor and catridges. Order a replacement biopellet cartridge from BRS. These have no sponges and the ends of the canister have plastic strainers to allow for more flow through the reactor.

http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/store/review/product/list/id/1575/category/349/

If you don't want to order, you can use one of your existing cartridges and take out the sponges and go to a craft store and buy a mesh and cut to fit in the ends of the cartridge.

When using your dual reactor, only use one chamber with your dedicated pump. Control the flow so there is a constant tumble and you should be fine.

 

[Blob-79]

hes not talking about running pellets I dont think. From the sounds of it hes converting over to the zeolith method. For the zeo media they make dedicated reactors with built in agitators so that once a day you can stir up the media

 

[teebone110]

Sorry about the confusion. I thought he had regular biopellets. I guess I should read before I post

 

[crazybizzle]

I think teebones got it right thou. The zeo media is pretty large like rocks bout a inch long by half inch wide i cant see how it would clump together unleds they soften up.  Guess ill try what tee said and if i run into a problem ill hook up my phosban reactor and run the zeo inside that.  i will be posting a thread with pics and updates every week to track progress probaly start tonight.

 

[Blob-79]

its not about it clumping I dont think. You should read up on the usage of the zeo media..im positive it needs to be stirred daily

 

[Cal_stir]

it's basically the same as zoevit, you have to shake it daily, it's a bio media that brightwell claims houses denitrifying bacteria, however, denitrification only takes place in the absence of oxygen, IMO it is the same as vsv or bio-pellets, nitrifying bacteria(mb7),  are housed in the media and fuel is added to promote reproduction(reef bio-fuel) and the bacteria dies and forms a slime like coating(mulm) on the media which is shaken off daily, some mulm is uptaken by the corals and the rest is skimmed off.

ULNS means no nutrients, no food, starving your corals to produce more colour, you must supplement something to keep them alive and healthy

 

[crazybizzle]

Thanks cal that helps ur running a zeo system right? Sucks that ya gotta shake the reactor up i figured with it tumbling ib reactor it would be fine what do u recomend i supplement with. Im using the zeo media in reactor mb7 bio fuel amino acids and c kolour

 

[Cal_stir]

no, i run high nutrient system (we like to feed) and a diy sulphur denitrator to take care of the nitrates, no shaking required.
i did a lot of research on vsv, zoevit, bio-pellets, DSBs, and denitrators and went with the denitrator.
i don't think you should tumble the zoe rocks as the bacteria needs to colonize the rocks to be effective, a daily shake cleans them of the dead bacteria which is skimmed off. also the rocks will break up if tumbled.
if you google zoevit you will get some good links on ULNS.