Rasta Difference

[Luke.]

I was wondering if anyone has seen rasta zoas with bigger heads like a pally but maybe not that big? Here's the size of mine and was wondering is it mush harder to find bigger heads or is there a "true" rasta if so are they the bigger head or smaller heads like mine (sorry about shity pic only one I got atm lol)

 

[reeferkeeper420]

Most of the rastas ive seen are smaller polyps. Dont think ive ever seen large rasta polyps. Itll really depend on your lighting and water how big they will get tho.

 

[scubasteve]

this is always tricky with zoos especially since alot of so called zoanthids are actually palythoa. most of what you see to be smaller heads very close to rock are zoanthids (like your rastas). whereas the ones that get big fat heads and long stalks are actualy palythoa. there are also micro zoanthids that are super tiny. the only real difference is how they spread and one carries the nasty palythoa toxin but zoos living near paly's can actually absorb and secrete the toxin to use as their own defense. This is why you should always treat any zoo as toxic

 

[reeferkeeper420]

Best way to tell for sure what you have is by looking at their mat and stalk. Palys looks almost clear with specks all through it from sand and other particles it absorbs to creat their mats. Whereas zoas are a solid black/grey, and like steve said are normally smaller.

 

[Luke.]

Cool good to know ! And steve i had no idea that other zoos near by can maybe carry the toxins makes me rethink about handling them

 

[zoomster]

this is always tricky with zoos especially since alot of so called zoanthids are actually palythoa. most of what you see to be smaller heads very close to rock are zoanthids (like your rastas). whereas the ones that get big fat heads and long stalks are actualy palythoa. there are also micro zoanthids that are super tiny. the only real difference is how they spread and one carries the nasty palythoa toxin but zoos living near paly's can actually absorb and secrete the toxin to use as their own defense. This is why you should always treat any zoo as toxic

Hey scubasteve, now would the palys and zoas be toxic to humans, other tank inhabitants ( fish, corals, inverts etc ) or both?
Just for clarification. ( i don't know either lol )

 

[zoomster]

So today was not a waste now, i learned something new!
Tip of the hat to ScubaSteve!

 

[Nonuser]

Um, is that hat a fedora?

 

[TORX]

I guess it is time for someone to post a reminder about paly poisoning. I love zoas, and handle them accordingly. I don't even let my kids around when fragging them

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[scubasteve]

Hey scubasteve, now would the palys and zoas be toxic to humans, other tank inhabitants ( fish, corals, inverts etc ) or both?
Just for clarification. ( i don't know either lol )

very deadly to humans.... frag a paly dont wash and touch eyes or mouth and lookout theres no anti toxin no you have to let it take its course it pretty much blocks your nervouse system receptors so its almost like having als and pneumonia at the same time which would not be a pretty or fast way to go.... corals have natural defenses for the most part but this is why alot of things that nip polyps wont touch zoos. Only certain fish can breakdown the proteins but they are the ones known to eat leathers and zoos.

 

[scubasteve]

I do all my fragging submerged in a little tupperware so i have no worries about a squirt to the eye or mouth. Dont frag with cuts on hand and always wash hot water and soap a member on another forum almost killed him and wife and he was boiling lr to rid palys not even fragging

 

[heath]

there was an article here about a month ago, I think...they can be scary things...

 

[zoomster]

Well thank you very much for that lesson ScubaSteve. I never knew zoas could be that dangerous to us as well as most fish!

And i assume there are no identifiers as to which are dangerous and which are harmless?

 

[zoomster]

You see @Luke, this is just one of the many reasons being a member of the the frag tank is so great!
There are so many super knowledgeable members here that are so willing to help.
I have been a salt water enthusiast for a long time although pretty new to the world of fragging and big-time corals and i never knew they could be this toxic to humans.
Gonna go toss out my coral stew right now actually!!!

 

[unibob]

@BIGSHOW will tell you about fragging them.

I didn't think bigfoot would by affected but heard quite the story in Brantford.


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