Speedy And Invisible Killer

[jeffopentax]

I have corrected/added some dates to previous description.


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[saltyair]

This will hopefully help.

x2 check your water change buckets and other tools you use.
The no3 is high - unless it spiked over night i wouldn't think is was that but will stress new additions.
When you put in the new skimmer did you clean it before you put it in?
also the new skimmer might not be adding as much air as before - so adding the air stone sounds right.

I would get carbon ASAP - if its a contaminate it will help remove it.

if i was a betting man i would guess it's a disease from one of the newer fish.

I had a similar scenario when i added 5 new anithist with out QT - i was lucky and it only took out the anthist and two wrasses.

IMO the stress and lack of oxygen at night started a chain reaction with an unseen disease.

This is what i would do
1) get carbon in the tank just in case it's contamination. never hurts
2) do a 10% water change/ vacuum one section of crushed coral per wc
3) point the fan/pump to agitate the surface water. When you get a chance pick up a second fan/pump for more water movement.
4) At this point i would let the disease run it's course, since you can't diagnose it. Or if you have a qt/hospital tank try melafix or other type of low grade anti bacterial.
5) 2x check water buckets, ro/di filters and water.
I hope this helps - so sorry for the losses it can be a frustrating hobby at times. Things will bounce back and be better than ever.

Good luck

 

[heath]

sounds like really good advise. Sherlock Homes to the rescue..:

 

[jeffopentax]

Thanks everyone for all your help and advice. I have enough salt for one more 10% wc (never used so much so quickly!). I have only 2, 5g pails i use. One for outbound water, one for incoming. Not efficient, but nothing in my life is So my plan is to do a wc w/some vacuuming, put in my koralia 1150, add some carbon, and hope nothing else dies. Oh the joys of saltwater!


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[heath]

good luck, keep us posted. I am sure that somewhere down the line we will need the info again..

 

[AdInfinitum]

Whoa!! Did I see a Sea Hare mentioned?

How's the Sea hare doing.... You know that they will release ink if they are harassed by an aggressive or even overly curious fish and in the confined environment of a tank that can cause major issues....

The composition and toxicity of the ink depends on the species and the type of algae it has been consuming....

+1 on carbon

 

[jeffopentax]

Whoa!! Did I see a Sea Hare mentioned?

How's the Sea hare doing.... You know that they will release ink if they are harassed by an aggressive or even overly curious fish and in the confined environment of a tank that can cause major issues....

The composition and toxicity of the ink depends on the species and the type of algae it has been consuming....

+1 on carbon

The seahare died yesterday. Cleaned up 95% of the gha first. I won't exclude it completely, though i have read more stories of people having them without having issues, than the other way around. Some have even suggested the toxicity is so low that only the smallest tanks would be affected (30g or smaller). Unfortunately, won't ever know what part, if any, it may have played in this disaster.


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[curiousphil]

You added a good number of fish in a few weeks period, wouldn't surprise me if something came in with one of them. None of them truly had time to settle into your tank and build their strength up.

Also regarding vacuuming sand - you can vacuum out quite a lot of junk without removing any sand! Just twist the gravel vac a bit to get it good and deep, you will see it rapidly fill with brown water, and then the sand will slowly start to rise up into the tube as well. Once you have a couple inches of sand in the tube just pull the vac up and the sand will fall back to the bottom of your tank.

 

[jeffopentax]

Sadly, the bird wrasse didn't make it. Found him in the same corner he was in this morning. Still breathing but no eyes, and puffer was picking at him. Netted him without a fight, and down the toilet he went


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[heath]

that is too bad, hopefully this will stop soon, sorry for all your losses..

 

[reef keeper]

Bro that sucks man.

I had a heater go bad and my corals freakin melted in my frag tank. I got a wicked shock when I put my hand in the sump.

 

[jeffopentax]

I guess at least 1 snail is unaware of anything wrong in the tank.

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[heath]

go figure, something killing the fish and the snails decide to breed...

 

[jeffopentax]

Tried to figure out if heater is faulty. Plugged into gfi, and it didn't trip it. Can't see inside, since it has the marineland logo all over it (nice design!), but i don't think it should rattle like a burnt out lightbulb!


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[Pistol]

If yo don't have a ground probe in the tank it may not trip the gfci even if it is defective.

 

[jeffopentax]

So the killing has stopped, knock on wood, but over the last few days have had a breakout of red bubble algae (?) ! So two big questions: what do i do about it, and is it going to hurt/kill my toadstool?

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[Pistol]

cyanobacteria, you should be able to blow it off with a turkey baster.

 

[reef keeper]

Increase you flow!!!

 

[jeffopentax]

I've read it caused by the same things that cause other algaes (phosphates, nitrates, light). So why is there so much of it all of the sudden when I haven't had it before? It's everywhere!


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[Pistol]

you have a nutrient issue now, you need to get some stability back.