Striatus Bristletooth Tang

[AdInfinitum]

I always have prazi-pro in the house and have often used medicated food with metronidazole, both in the general cure product. I prefer having them separate to control application.

FW dip temp and ph matched for 3-4 minutes will give immediate relief and buy some time. You will likely see tons of flukes being expelled from the gills. A fomalin dip would be even better.

I find prazi excellent for internal parasites but only effective against certain species of external flukes.

 

[yveterinarian]

I have Formalin if needed.

 

[jeffopentax]

Scubasteve will be "rescuing" him today Hopefully the big guy is tough and can be saved. Will be an awesome addition to your tank steve!

 

[scubasteve]

did a freshwater dip first got rid of most have some nori in for him was gonna use para guard but have had good results with cupramin before and am comfortable with how to use it since i have the copper test plus it kills everything lol he looked horrible after transport but is keeping himself suspended and not laying on bottom so hopefully he picks up a bit soon

 

[jeffopentax]

Happy to hear tang has a chance of making it. Should point out to anyone following this, pretty sure it is an eyestripe tang, not striatus bristletooth it was sold to me as. Cool fish either way!

 

[Poseidon]

Keep us updated scuba Steve!

 

[scubasteve]

will take a pic after work tomorrow must say still has some fight in him

 

[AdInfinitum]

Cupramine is only effective against a few species of flukes at concentrations that are not lethal to fish and the concentration recommended for flukes is already pushing the envelope for many healthy fish. If you don't see fairly immediate results you will have to remove the copper from the tank before dosing with other meds.

 

[jeffopentax]

The biggest problem with this fish is trying to determine what it is he has. I've not been able to find anything online that resembles it, except for a thread on another forum. Nobody there could figure it out either. Should have bookmarked it. Will try to find it again.

 

[jeffopentax]

Was able to track down the thread I found before. They are talking about the exact same parasite, whatever it is!
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2295036


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[sunnykita]

did a freshwater dip first got rid of most have some nori in for him was gonna use para guard but have had good results with cupramin before and am comfortable with how to use it since i have the copper test plus it kills everything lol he looked horrible after transport but is keeping himself suspended and not laying on bottom so hopefully he picks up a bit soon

best of luck scubasteve and you too jeffopentax, here's to survival and growth hopeful anyway !

 

[scubasteve]

still have no idea what it is but seems people on other forms had best luck with fw dip and cupramin so glad im on the same track hopefully i can surpress it within a month and start a para guard treatment to help protect him till his slime coat recovers he was swimming nicely this morning very active and alert but fins still clenched breathing is almost normal and stopped twitching

 

[scubasteve]

well got home today and some stringy things were present but down by 50% and the ones now are super thin and are prob feeling the effects of meds lol gonna wait for tomorrow night before another fw dip as tonight he is swimming perfectly dorsal and anal fins are still clamped but he lets em up every now and then....... big upper he ate quite a bit of mysis so he is hanging in there we all know once they stop eating they probably only have a few more days...... whatever it is seems like a cross between a fluke and an anchor worm but different from both as well my lfs guy has only seen it twice in fish people baught from someone but has never seen it on wild caught fish

 

[scubasteve]

Cupramine is only effective against a few species of flukes at concentrations that are not lethal to fish and the concentration recommended for flukes is already pushing the envelope for many healthy fish. If you don't see fairly immediate results you will have to remove the copper from the tank before dosing with other meds.

im well aware of what cupramin is capable of it is not flukes just similar and people that had this same thing or similar all had success with cupramin and fw dips everything else failed horribly so using what i have observed from others i am using what appears to be the best treatment.... besides is easy to remove copper with carbon fresh carbon removes it in a few days.I plan on keeping him in for a week this isnt my first time medicating sw fish and i have alot of good info from an lfs with 20 years in saltwater so think im in good hands thanks.

 

[bart84]

Hope you are successful. He his helping me too.

 

[AdInfinitum]

im well aware of what cupramin is capable of it is not flukes just similar and people that had this same thing or similar all had success with cupramin and fw dips everything else failed horribly so using what i have observed from others i am using what appears to be the best treatment.... besides is easy to remove copper with carbon fresh carbon removes it in a few days.I plan on keeping him in for a week this isnt my first time medicating sw fish and i have alot of good info from an lfs with 20 years in saltwater so think im in good hands thanks.

Hey, not being critical...just trying to be helpful... Knowledge is never a bad thing....

 

[scubasteve]

maybe i should e-mail the dept. of ichtheology at university of guelph if anyone knows what it is it would be them....... i did fix the roof leak in their office after all

 

[AdInfinitum]

I ran it by my mother, (retired research biologist genetics Fisheries Research Board of Canada gov. Field of expertise, fish ectoparasites). Her first thought from my description was that we might be seeing the reproductive organ or egg sacs from embedded parasitic crustaceans.

If so, unlikely to spread in aquaria due to complex life cycle. Repeating cycles of FW baths can be effective or copper at medium high doses based on tolerance of fish species for 12-18 hours at a time or the more modern route would fish safe crustacean killers like interceptor.

...but that's just a description over the phone. If you can grab one of the strings clusters of eggs might even be visible with a good magnifying glass.

 

[jeffopentax]

I ran it by my mother, (retired research biologist genetics Fisheries Research Board of Canada gov. Field of expertise, fish ectoparasites). Her first thought from my description was that we might be seeing the reproductive organ or egg sacs from embedded parasitic crustaceans.

If so, unlikely to spread in aquaria due to complex life cycle. Repeating cycles of FW baths can be effective or copper at medium high doses based on tolerance of fish species for 12-18 hours at a time or the more modern route would fish safe crustacean killers like interceptor.

...but that's just a description over the phone. If you can grab one of the strings clusters of eggs might even be visible with a good magnifying glass.

Interesting! It didn't appear to spread to any of my other fish. You may be on to something!

 

[Poseidon]

What a weird situation, lol