Thought On Huge Water Changes?

Nonuser

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What would be the major issues if any.

if you completely changed your systems water? Let's say for argument sake you had the correct temp,salinity and completely drained yours tank and replaced in quickest time possible.

Like an oil change.
 

ColbytheClown

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Well don't think this applies to anyone else's situation, but when I did a 100+ WC because the children poured the Coral RX nothing happened, although it is probably diffrent from others people's experiences.
 

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You may get a good cycle. A large water change should be okay so long as you do not kill off the bacteria in the rock. It is not suggested to do it though. I have seen people not have any issue and others have had a insane cycle immediately afterwards.

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You may get a good cycle. A large water change should be okay so long as you do not kill off the bacteria in the rock. It is not suggested to do it though. I have seen people not have any issue and others have had a insane cycle immediately afterwards.

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I guess it all really comes down to the cycle issue and it's a great answer.
 

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Just curious why you would like to do this? I have done many extremely large water changes in various types of systems for various reasons...so if there is something specific that you are trying to accomplish...I've probably experimented with it.....
 

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Not going to do this.

But have had some issues recently and not sure why.
I have a few ideas, I think removing the hydra leached toxins and killed a few frags in my tank. It could be something else.

I have to replace some media in my ro unit and the tds has increased so this could have been the culprit and then when I went to check my refracto meter fluid it was empty. So my salinity could be out of wack as well.

I understand that the less changing variables and more consistenty the better chance of success. I have been looking into the Triton method this only replaces trace elements and ro is only used for water top ups.
 

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I only recommend large water changes if you are in a emergency situation where you need to get things under control quickly. Where the risk is the better option then the outcome of the emergency. Other then that you can cause major issues for no reason. I have seen people crash their tank because they did a large water change. The corals got shocked by the large change in tank chemistry and they died. SPS can start RTN reaction and burn through the tank like fire. LPS can slog off their tissue. Shrimp popped because they were not able to adjust to the change in osmotic pressure. Yes you can do it in some situations and have no viable damage. Each batch of new saltwater is different and you just never know fully what you will get or how different it will be then your tank water. Your food web will be damaged even if you don't see it because crustaceans don't like large quick changes. You can even cause a algae bloom or make a algae bloom worse because of the die off of the food web. If you have mostly soft corals you could possibly get away with it as they are more hardy and adjust quicker in chemistry and environmental changes. But stuff like SPS and crustaceans don't like it. Quick\large changes and reef don't mix and is a recipe for disaster. Just because some people have done it doesn't mean you should.

If you really need to do it you should add the water over a few hrs slowly and have it act like a drip over for your corals. Even then to me it is not worth it if it is not needed. (like emergency or say a tank move to a new house) If you are doing it because you have higher nutrients it is a bandage solution because proper reef husbandry is the only long term solution to maintaining the reef. If someone has bad reef husbandry doing bandage fix doesn't do anything to fix the core issue.

You are better off to do small water changes every few days for a few weeks and do a good cleaning on your tank. Go back to basic and stop dosing and feeding coral foods and most of your products unless it is alk or calcium related. The water changes (unless you have a very heavy coral density) will take care of most of your daily needs for your macro and micro nutrients. If you have issues one of the first things to stop is growth and color of corals so your product use drops. If you keep using them like business as usual it causes an imbalance and unstable system and contributes to your situation. Take a good look at your setup and see if you have a balance of the different types of filtration. You need Physical like filter sock\floss, chemical like skimmer\carbon, nutrient export like water changes\harvesting of algae and biological like sandbed\ rocks\bio pellets. This will go a long way into correcting issues in the tank and help maintain a stable system. Any changes you do should be slow and steady and don't do any quick actions without thinking.
 
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