Whelk Snails

bart84

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I have always wondered why I couldn't keep snails in my reef and I think I found a predator. I have whelk snails, so how do I get rid of them? Is there something that will eat them or is it just a manual removal game?
 

bart84

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Anything that eats them will eat the "good" snails too. Whelks come in as hitchhikers and sometimes get sold as "baby Nassarius".
Depending on what they are it might be worth it. I don't have many left. What could I use ? Depending on what it is I might have a better chance to get it back out then a tiny ass snail.
 

zoomster

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Depending on what they are it might be worth it. I don't have many left. What could I use ? Depending on what it is I might have a better chance to get it back out then a tiny ass snail.
My male/female bird wrasses did a wonderful job of ridding my tank of nasty things like turbosnails, hermits, brittle stars, banded trochus snails ect.
 

Kman

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A word of caution bird wrasse are NOT considered reef safe so this is not an option for everyone so use with caution. In my opinion introducing a fish that is not reef safe into a reef to get rid of something that may or may not be killing your snails is not a good option.

First before jumping to conclusions on a cause can we see pictures of the Whelk snails? To be honest I have been in this hobby for a few decades and I have never came across these so they are not very common in the aquarium trade. Or I would have had them or met others that legitimately had them at one time or another. I have seen people that had a whole lot of problems in their tank going on and they didn't want to admit that it was something they were doing causing their problems. So they felt more comfortable to blame it on whelks when it was not.

Not ideal water quality, lack of the right food source, something toxic in the water or fish\ Shrimp are the more likely and common causes of snail death. With that being said it can't hurt to be cautious and ID said Whelk snails as this is always good practices to be cautious. If you do have them manual removal is best, don't introduce something that in the end could end up causing other problems for you. You can set up some traps with food in them to entice them into the trap for removal. It is a pain but in time the numbers will dwindle.
 

bart84

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@Kman this is what they look like.
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AdInfinitum

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A word of caution bird wrasse are NOT considered reef safe so this is not an option for everyone so use with caution. In my opinion introducing a fish that is not reef safe into a reef to get rid of something that may or may not be killing your snails is not a good option.

First before jumping to conclusions on a cause can we see pictures of the Whelk snails? To be honest I have been in this hobby for a few decades and I have never came across these so they are not very common in the aquarium trade. Or I would have had them or met others that legitimately had them at one time or another. I have seen people that had a whole lot of problems in their tank going on and they didn't want to admit that it was something they were doing causing their problems. So they felt more comfortable to blame it on whelks when it was not.

Not ideal water quality, lack of the right food source, something toxic in the water or fish\ Shrimp are the more likely and common causes of snail death. With that being said it can't hurt to be cautious and ID said Whelk snails as this is always good practices to be cautious. If you do have them manual removal is best, don't introduce something that in the end could end up causing other problems for you. You can set up some traps with food in them to entice them into the trap for removal. It is a pain but in time the numbers will dwindle.

I disagree...whelks are extremely common in aquaria just usually not correctly identified. Many cause no issues since the usual abundance of food gives them no reason to expend energy on predation. However I agree that most snails die at the hands (claws) of hermits, other crabs and larger shrimp.

The criteria "reef safe" is very broad...most wrasses that are "not reef safe" are deemed so because they prey on snails and shrimps even if they would never touch any sort of coral... Reef safe is a term that needs to be scrutinized more carefully, considering your system's specific situation. IMO
 

Kman

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I actually don't know anyone that legitimately had them, even the ones that said they did. Including some members that are on this forum that said they had them and did not.

I have seen a pair of Bird wrasse destroy a SPS tank in a week after being added for this very treatment of whelks. In the end they didn't even have them and they ended up with a damaged reef.

Plus big difference between a fish to be categorized as not reef safe like a bird wrasse or Queen trigger then a fish classified as keep with caution like a wrasse or crosshatch trigger. The two classifications are not comparable. The OP can add them if he wants. Be warned though the damage they can do is not worth it.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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