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I'd move those bulk heads to the back of that box if I could, Give the box more room to process the water.

I'm not sure what you mean by back of the box. They are at the back currently. The bulkheads are what hold overflow to back. Open to your suggestion, just not sure what you mean.


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It may look funny as the tank has a thick euro bracing


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Another point I'd like to add, Your drains, You may find that once installed and completed, with what ever plumbing you do, Flexible hose or solid pipe is that as the water goes through those two elbows that their will be quite a bit of noise. I would of put two Tees there with caps on the top and a hole drilled in the Caps, Mark help me out here, you want that to be quiet. The Tee set-up will allow any air to escape before travelling into the sump and it will be quiet.

The top of the Tees or where the caps are will have to higher than the water line in the tank. You can extend the height with piping, These are just suggestions Jerry, Trying to save you the frustration of a noisy over flow.
 
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Another point I'd like to add, Your drains, You may find that once installed and completed, with what ever plumbing you do, Flexible hose or solid pipe is that as the water goes through those two elbows that their will be quite a bit of noise. I would of put two Tees there with caps on the top and a hole drilled in the Caps, Mark help me out here, you want that to be quiet. The Tee set-up will allow any air to escape before travelling into the sump and it will be quiet.

The top of the Tees or where the caps are will have to higher than the water line in the tank. You can extend the height with piping, These are just suggestions Jerry, Trying to save you the frustration of a noisy over flow.

If Jerry is using the Herbie method then drilling holes in the pipe would go against the methodology of the Herbie method. The point is to have one of the lines at full siphon and the other line with a trickle of water. Full siphon and a trickly of water will be almost silent. Drilling holes and adding Tee's would basically turn it into a Durso style setup. (I think he is trying for the much improved Herbie method, could be wrong here)
 

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I'm not totally familiar with the Herbie, Both those drains are at the same height, I suppose you could restrict one drain to a trickle using valves. But with that size of tank and the fact that it will have two returns, I would suggest moving more water using two drains. I could be wrong here as well. Not sure what you'll be using for a return pump. Looking at the room in your sump and the fact that'll have to push the water as far as it will with two returns tell me that you won't be firing the water through the system, So yes perhaps only the one drain will be required.
 

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I'm not totally familiar with the Herbie, Both those drains are at the same height, I suppose you could restrict one drain to a trickle using valves. But with that size of tank and the fact that it will have two returns, I would suggest moving more water using two drains. I could be wrong here as well. Not sure what you'll be using for a return pump. Looking at the room in your sump and the fact that'll have to push the water as far as it will with two returns tell me that you won't be firing the water through the system, So yes perhaps only the one drain will be required.


There is no need to use two drains a 1.5" line at full siphon can handle more water then Jerry can pump into it. With a Herbie set up you keep 90's inside the box, you have one turned up and one turned down. The one turned down has the full siphon and the one turned down is the trickle. If the one under full siphon does get clogged the completely open line that is taking the 10% will handle all the water as it will eventually purge itself and turn into a siphon line as well. You would be shocked how much water a full siphon can handle with a 1.5" diameter drain.
 

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I fail to see the location of the mini fridge...you know, where you are going to keep your...uhhh...frozen food, ya...food for the fish.

I have some neat (for me at least :) )surprises for the room, not enough room for a mini fridge.


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Im using a 1.5" drain for my full siphon and i hve the gate valve almost closed, and mines a 135, 1 1" trickle one 1" emerge. So mine can definately handle alot more flow.
 

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Im using a 1.5" drain for my full siphon and i hve the gate valve almost closed, and mines a 135, 1 1" trickle one 1" emerge. So mine can definately handle alot more flow.

What pump are you using?


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Ok, so I am most likely going to be getting a Gen 2 Waveline DC10000 or 12000 return pump. Should give me some play room I hope after feeding other tanks and a few reactors.
 

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I am running a waveline dc12000 and have it dialled back to just under 50%
It moves a lot of water, considering I have it pumping my returns and a manifold with outputs for 2 reactors and another return to my fuge.
It is also able to pump water up through my ceiling and across my home for water changes no problem.

My only issue is that it is not dead quiet like I had expected. There is a slight whining noise that is obvious when its running.
It does blend in with the hum of my vortechs, so its not too bad.

Make sure you get the new larger heat sink, I think all gen2 models should have it. Huge improvement over the first gen that were cooled with the small cpu fan.
 
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