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It’s just the truth and no one should tell anyone how to live / what to do like you said , not to mention everyone should be able to “controllably” talk about one’s own option and what not !
That is what the Freedom Convoy 2022 is all about. It isn't about anti vax. The convoy is anti mandates that are destroying our country. The news is just reporting what they want according to the agenda they push. The vax mandate was just the straw that broke the camels back. There are doctors, nurses, police, emergency services, teachers, and so on all marching with them to Ottawa.
 
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As for the list of vaccines we took as a child. First they have been around of 100 years and many have been changed due to mass deaths and medical side affects. Even the recent N1H1 vaccine that we took had been around for 40 years before we had a 'pandemic' on it. They also all have led to the irradiation of diseases. The COVID vaccine went from 95% effective to 95% effective against hospitalizations and death to 95% effective against death and drops down to about 39% against infection in late June and early July 2021. They are now talking about making 3rd dose mandatory and also starting 2nd boosters (4th shot) publicly. That is all before they come out with the 5th on which is Omnicron specific.

2 years before COVID, all manufactures but 1 (Moderna) had given up on using mRNA for vaccine treatments as there were too many adverse reactions. Even Moderna was not allowed to start human trials as it was considered unsafe. Info which I personally read off Modernas website which has now been removed. Moderna came up with a "new technology" for the mRNA to work only about a year before COVID. There is no living person on the planet who has had a mRNA vaccine in them more then 2 years at this point. They had previously used mRNA to treat cancer patients as a last resort, but they are not around long enough to note what the long term effects are of mRNA let alone using them for a vaccine. Also there is 0 data on long term effects on children born from mRNA vaccinated parents. They keep saying it is safe and trust the science, however in the real world, the science does not change every week and vary province to province, country to country, continent to continent.
 

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To note, I have family in upper administration of hospitals, I mean people who over see all the hospitals in entire regions and provinces. Even they say this is all just a money grab to increase hospital funding and control the people. The stats they have to/allowed to show are always 1 step shy of explaining the truth. They give enough data and bombard it with other miscellaneous stats so that people do not question what is being presented.

Over the course of the year, COVID-19 was the third leading cause of death in 2020, accounting for 5.3% of all deaths in Canada, behind cancer (26.4%) and heart disease (17.5%). Unintentional injuries (accidents) were the fourth leading cause of death (5.0%).

We all should have a choice to be vaccinated. We all have available vaccinations if we want them. You can still spread the virus whether are are vaccinated or not. It isnt about grandma. Over 60 have a 95% vaccination status including 3rd and some now 4th shot. Getting vaccinated is a personal choice that just protects you.
 
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I've been following some of the truckers on bitchute (videos get taken down on YT or FB), and it's amazing the turnouts in some of the cities, even in brutally cold weather. THAT is the narrative that the cbc, globe and mail, and all the paid for rags keep pushing, that EVERYONE is fine with being forced to jab, but only a weird fringe of the population, the bigots and racists, don't want to do it because they're selfish.

Thought of you Torx when I was at the rally in town here, that's why the post. I figured you would "get" why this is an issue, and see past the "it's those nasty anti vaxxers fault" bullshit.

They deleted the Facebook group, presumably Facebook did, 600000 member's strong.



Not sure who exactly "froze" the 4+ MILLION dollars in the gofundme account, they claim it's just to be judiciary, but I suspect the turd had a hand in it. There is a big meeting coming up in the conservative party, to try and get that useless PROGRESSIVE O'toole out, because while I despise the cons, the ndp and the libs are simply worse, and trudeau has GOT to go. His attitude, stupid face and fiscal policy has destroyed Canada, the sheep just don't see it because they don't understand what printing money does for a currency value. You can't just print money. Period. Biden is doing the same in the US, but you can go to ANY country in the world and spend a US dollar, but you can only go to ONE and spend a Canadian loonie. He is venezuela-ing the place, and everyone is just happy because he dumps money on everything. Gee, can't imagine why inflation is high, and is set to absolutely EXPLODE. Trudeuauoo will of course blame the truckers, or the unvaxed, or the white supremacists, or the non french or whomever is on his hit list, and the CBC will parrot it, and the sheep will believe it. I moved out of my neighbourhood because the city established an "anonymous tip line" for ratting out your neighbours, and since most of my neighbours are FAR left teachers and most of the others are government workers, I knew that if things got bad, and turd said "oohhhh, tell us where the nasty anti vaxxers are, it's public safety you know, just let us know and we'll protect you by taking them to a re-education camp that probably won't kill them". So even though that was a slight chance, it's now more likely (listen to how the ignorant talk about people who just don't want this particular "vaccine"). We made the right choice. The truckers are making the right choice, and people have obviously just been waiting for someone to stand behind, and I'm damn proud to stand behind and WITH the truckers.

Kudos to you Torx. Kudos to our awesome road warriors. Let the world see the lies that the media has been spinning. People need to be woken up from whatever delusion they have that the government can DEMAND that whenever they feel like it , you MUST report for whatever medical proceedure they decide you need.

WAKE UP THE SHEEP!!


Funny to think that of all people, Russell Brand "gets" it.

(I've actually never liked him or his humour, but if the guy is going to take information from multiple sources, and just present it "as is", I applaud him. 5 million subs too I see, and I guess I know why. Peopel are SICK AND TIRED of being lied to!
 

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It’s honestly just a shame these guys are going to fight and bet nothing will change and they will be out of $$ , but I know that’s not the point , they want to be heard and who can blame them
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It’s honestly just a shame these guys are going to fight and bet nothing will change and they will be out of $$ , but I know that’s not the point , they want to be heard and who can blame them
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They won't be out anything, there's somewhere close to 5 million that each can apply for,to cover their costs and time. F'unded by people from around the globe. Last I heard gofundme tried to seize the funds, but I don't think legally they can do it for long.

PLUS, it has shown people that the government narrative is false, that it isn't a small batch of nazis that are against the mandates. I honestly have felt like I was alone, like completely alone, a few times over the past 2 years. Like I was the only one who thought this was crazy government overreach, and that it would never end...and that it wasn't about the virus at all.

It's supposedly all over twitter too, much to the chagrin of the twitter censors.

Facebook page came back, but by accounts about 80% of the posts are edited out, they took it offline to cut out anything that didn't match the narrative, and that's just making people more angry. This thing was going to boil over sooner or later, I wonder if this is the first bit of steam escaping the pot the liberals have had clamped down.
 

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All I have to say about all this situation, is that instead of sending billions of dollars in aid to foreign countries, maybe, just maybe, put that back to our Healthcare system that has been crippled ever since the conservatives took away funding to help the "rich with taxes". I personally have been vexed as it was a condition to remained employed, and unfortunately, leaving is not an option as that is pretty much the condition for hiring now a days, but even though I'm vexed, I have Kung issues and a MEDICAL PERSONAL will not touch, see or examine me for my lungs because I'm coughing and brining up flem, sorry, been doing that my whole life and would actually want to get checked, but no here's a pill, here is a puffer and off u go.. honestly I'd rather jump across the border, risk the 6k fine and actually get adequate heath care. Period, regardless if we were in a pandemic or not.
 

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Would this issue be fixed if the libs weren’t in charge ? I mean mr Dougie ford seems just as bad as uncle Trudeau lol , regardless something needs to break
 

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Honestly I don't know anymore, no matter what party goes in, 14% of our annual tax revenues goes to foreign countries, less than 2 to Healthcare. We can't help people if we can't help ourselves, it is causing more issues than better. I know someone who has died because they were given a false diagnosis and no one seemed to take the time and check. And for me to see a specialist, I'm on a 6 year waitlist.... like come on.
 

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Would this issue be fixed if the libs weren’t in charge ? I mean mr Dougie ford seems just as bad as uncle Trudeau lol , regardless something needs to break
You are also talking about that man, who made gas stickers and covid stickers mandatory, so that his company could profit, I believe he made over 100 million alone last year because he gave himself the majority of the contracts...
 

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All I have to say about all this situation, is that instead of sending billions of dollars in aid to foreign countries, maybe, just maybe, put that back to our Healthcare system that has been crippled ever since the conservatives took away funding to help the "rich with taxes". I personally have been vexed as it was a condition to remained employed, and unfortunately, leaving is not an option as that is pretty much the condition for hiring now a days, but even though I'm vexed, I have Kung issues and a MEDICAL PERSONAL will not touch, see or examine me for my lungs because I'm coughing and brining up flem, sorry, been doing that my whole life and would actually want to get checked, but no here's a pill, here is a puffer and off u go.. honestly I'd rather jump across the border, risk the 6k fine and actually get adequate heath care. Period, regardless if we were in a pandemic or not.

When it comes to spending, the Federal government was spending around 3.2 Billion dollars a week just to pay out CERB. Who knows how much for other EI, CRB, CRCB, small business benefits etc that were paid out. That also means that all those 6.5 million people were out of work not paying income tax, cpp and ei. They drained their bank accounts to stay afloat removing all that base out of the banks. The government spent all that money and lost all that revenue to attempt to stop a problem instead of deal with it. In my opinion, they would have been better off putting it in our Healthcare for emergency hospitals and staff. Instead they fired nurses and doctors compounding the issue. Bed shortages have nothing to do with physical beds. Bed shortages are based off of staffing. That is why during the peak of Omicron they were screaming that ICU's were over capacity even though there were less in ICU then the highest peaks of COVID Beta and Delta. They fired doctors and nurses creating bed shortages.

COVID spreads throughout hospitals. A place where medical staff have an entire course on proper PPE use yet they think that every day people can protect them selves with cloth masks and hand sanitizer. COVID is so bad that they fired all the unvaccinated but COVID is safe enough for COVID positive nurses and doctors to still work.
 

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Honestly I don't know anymore, no matter what party goes in, 14% of our annual tax revenues goes to foreign countries, less than 2 to Healthcare. We can't help people if we can't help ourselves, it is causing more issues than better. I know someone who has died because they were given a false diagnosis and no one seemed to take the time and check. And for me to see a specialist, I'm on a 6 year waitlist.... like come on.
To my understanding Canada's international assistance spending is just over $6 billion however Canada spends just over $300 billion on healthcare.
I can feel you on the misdiagnosis. I lost my father and my wife lost her grandfather both way too soon because of misdiagnosis. My father was also almost paralyzed earlier in life because they misdiagnosed an almost severed spinal cord saying it was just a pulled hamstring. His other health issues were mocked up to being part of his lifestyle meanwhile he actually had lung cancer, cirrhosis of the liver and brain lesions.
 

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Would this issue be fixed if the libs weren’t in charge ? I mean mr Dougie ford seems just as bad as uncle Trudeau lol , regardless something needs to break
Ford is a useless piece of shit, and o'toole is a progressive.
We need a radical "for Canadians' government. As itspaz says, we spend all of this money, these billions and billions of freshly printed money, they STILL run a defecit, and Canadians are still hurting, divided and angry.

The only PM I kind of liked was Harper. I liked Cretien and voted for him, until he broke every promise in his "little red book".
Harper at least was an economist and ran a balanced budget. Not much personality, and he should have stepped down near the end there. That's all I want, is someone who spends less than they bring in. Now that's not a popular opinion with unions and government workers, because the bloat is phenomenal, but it's what needs to happen. Put it this way, they are either going to have to cut back on what they're spending, or literally have nothing to spend. "Good luck with those pensions, hope they aren't paid in Canadian funds!". I keep a 50 trillion dollar bill on my desk, legit tender from zimbabwe, to remind me that governments DO fuck up, it just hasn't happened that bad here.

So to answer your question, I don't know if anyone would do better, but I know how effed in the skull trudeau is. He has said that he "only gets his news from the cbc". Well his government GIVES the cbc 1.4 billion dollars a year, and instructs them what they can publish, that's a public record fact, so trudeau is literally reading and believing his own press. That's why he can't understand why he doesn't have a majority government, because he gets NONE of the real feedback. So in that, as well as his "peoplekind" bullshit, just shows how retarded he is. When he said "Canadians have no core identity, I was so pissed off.... maybe in his quota filled bubble, but out here, we have lots of identity. Canadians are known the world over as maple syrup eating nice people who apologize a lot. That's a great identity. Lastly, his "systemic racism" (which oinly applies to whites of course) is so offensive I don't know where to start. If I want to be racist, I'll be racist. Calling me racist doesn't make me one if I'm not one, and won't make me not one if I am one, if you follow my meaning. I judge everyone on their inner moral compass. If that's messed up, I don't care what colour you are, I don't want anything to do with you. Conversely, if your moral compass is good, I'll call you friend no matter what color you are. That's just the way it is. My father was a legit racist and it was awful to listen to, really drove a wedge between us, so to have this fruitcake hairdo PM say that everyone is racist to their core being is stupid, moronic, retarded and dumb.

I honestly hate all of them. I hated the "progressive" conservatives, I hated the liberals for lying in the 90s, I hate the ndp because they are socialist/marxist and I hate trudeau because he's got too much of his mother in him. I don't hate a lot of things in this world...but politicians and SJWs, yes, hate is the right word :)

So trudeau has got to go, but there needs to be a viable alternative. O'toole isn't it, jagmeet isn't it, and bernier sure as hell isn't it. I think that's why I'm a libertarian :)

I want CANADA for CANADIANS. I want the EU out, I want the chinese government out, I want the American oil mongers out, I want all the special interest groups out , I only want people who watch hockey and/or can drink a case of beer with me. Oh, and you have to know how to use 'eh', eh?
 

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It’s just the truth and no one should tell anyone how to live / what to do like you said , not to mention everyone should be able to “controllably” talk about one’s own option and what not !
Not to you (Luke) specifically, but in general (and I'm sure I'm going to regret opening my mouth at all)

I haven't heard anyone give an alternative to vaccination that doesn't also suggest a resulting increase in infection or questionable off label use of pharmaceuticals, cascading into an already under funded medical system. Or suggesting any alternative at all, just "I think this is bad" which may be valid, but it's not useful or something that can be acted on and progressed forward. The entire reason we're using such a "young" vaccine on a currently developing virus is that too many people were willing to take risks with no protection at all, so it's a stop gap measure. The influenza vaccination took three decades to be certified, this one was certified in less than three years, but we're able to have some measure of "normalcy" while the vaccine is dialed in.

As far as "being told how to live", we still need to have drivers licenses to drive cars and trucks, which we pay for, and which we get fined for if we don't. Even if Canada repealed vaccination mandates for truckers, the US will still have a vaccination requirement for entry. "Unlimited Freedom" is an illusion unless you're talking about living on your own, because one persons freedom will always conflict with someone else's, and without some kind of universal restrictions we're back to beating each other with clubs.
 

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Well over half the world’s vaccinated so if something happens then there’s the population cute mr gates wanted times 1000 lol, or maybe we all become super hero lol truth is your right only time will tell what becomes of this , but if trump was funding the vaccine, no wonder it was so quick and effective lol
 

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Not to you (Luke) specifically, but in general (and I'm sure I'm going to regret opening my mouth at all)

I haven't heard anyone give an alternative to vaccination that doesn't also suggest a resulting increase in infection or questionable off label use of pharmaceuticals, cascading into an already under funded medical system. Or suggesting any alternative at all, just "I think this is bad" which may be valid, but it's not useful or something that can be acted on and progressed forward. The entire reason we're using such a "young" vaccine on a currently developing virus is that too many people were willing to take risks with no protection at all, so it's a stop gap measure. The influenza vaccination took three decades to be certified, this one was certified in less than three years, but we're able to have some measure of "normalcy" while the vaccine is dialed in.

As far as "being told how to live", we still need to have drivers licenses to drive cars and trucks, which we pay for, and which we get fined for if we don't. Even if Canada repealed vaccination mandates for truckers, the US will still have a vaccination requirement for entry. "Unlimited Freedom" is an illusion unless you're talking about living on your own, because one persons freedom will always conflict with someone else's, and without some kind of universal restrictions we're back to beating each other with clubs.

"universal restrictions" is an interesting term. Now who decides what the "universal restrictions" are? There's the crux of this conundrum, as I in no way recognize any politicians right to have dominion over me. Besides my wife, I don't recognize anyone's right to make me do anything unless I am breaking a fundamental law, such as murder.

It's a slippery slope, this "people need to worry about others". That's socialism. I reject socialism, and care not for what others think or do. I'll GLADLY go back to beating each other with sticks. In fact, bring it on, it will resolve SO MANY socials issues in about 30 days. All these people looking to defund the police or live in anarchy, I say let's do it.


Here's the thing. I live on a mountain. Literally in the middle of nowhere. It's not worth anyone's effort to try and come here and bother me, so I'm stacking the deck in my favour. Of all the things I truly call my own on this world, is my mind and my body. Telling me you have the right to dictate what I do with either, is not negotiable. I never thought I'd move out of the house I was in, but I saw how this could go if people started to believe that everyone "needs to comply". My wife and I have found ourselves a support group in the region, and it's big. Look up parallel society and you'll get an idea. We're set for absolutely everything if things go sideways. Food, medicine, everything up to major surgery (and we're working on that). There's a whole other world happening on the fringe. We obviously don't want that, and right now it's a group of people who contact each other outside of any social media, using encrypted messenger services, snail mail, landlines and ham radio. We're taking this seriously and we "recruited" more during the protests last weekend. There are a LOT of people who don't agree that liberals, conservatives, democrats, republicans, etc have any right to take away our freedoms, especially when the cause is so obviously corrupt. Plus, I simply don't care if others are scared, that's not my problem. I don't care if they are scared of me, because I refuse to jab up, that's not my problem. I don't care if people think they have the right to jab me up, that's not my problem. The way I see it, all of these problems are those of the pro vax/pro totalitarians. I have no problem except I can't go into bars. Not a lot of bars at 4000 feet anyway, so I guess I'll just have to suffer.

Now don't regret adding to the conversation, at least your comment was thought out. It's just not acceptable (to many).

Like I said, I have the luxury of just sitting by and watching this happen. It will be a LONG time before they come looking for my sorry ass, as I'm not a factor. I'm not raising shit on social media (besides this little blerb on a fish forum I suppose). In fact I don't belong to any social media, and one good thing about leftists...they are LAZY. If you don't exist on social media, you don't exist. There's a whole subculture in China that exists outside the social credit score, and that is under a legitimate dictatorship. We're only at the pseudo stage here in Canada. If trudeau tries to pass any "emergency measures" that give him more power, EVERYONE should be marching on Ottawa, not just the truckers. Unfortunately a lot of sheep will watch the cbc, blindly agree with whatever is said (again, bought-n-paid for by liberals using our own tax dollars), and it could get ugly. This convoy is a great litmus test of each side in this debate. Who will give in and flinch first. I'm thinking the truckers will win, they are strong and trudeau sits and talks like a girl.

Of course, this is all just my $.02 of course with current inflation, that's now a buck fifty :)
 

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Someone said this to me today, and it's completely valid:

Imagine buying trojan condoms, putting 3 on and still catching VD and getting the girl pregnant...
Then going and thanking trojan...

THEN blaming someone 4000 miles away for not wearing a condom.
 

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Someone said this to me today, and it's completely valid:

Imagine buying trojan condoms, putting 3 on and still catching VD and getting the girl pregnant...
Then going and thanking trojan...

THEN blaming someone 4000 miles away for not wearing a condom.
It's an interesting suggestion of a parallel, but copulation isn't something you can do without intending to... I'm pretty vanilla when it comes to such things, but I don't know of a situation where you can "accidentally" have sex, not to mention you need both parties to agree (god I hope you need both parties to agree).
 

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"universal restrictions" is an interesting term. Now who decides what the "universal restrictions" are? There's the crux of this conundrum, as I in no way recognize any politicians right to have dominion over me. Besides my wife, I don't recognize anyone's right to make me do anything unless I am breaking a fundamental law, such as murder.
The majority decides, since we (Canada) make effort to operate as a democracy. Democracy doesn't mean everyone gets what they want, it means that when faced with a polarizing issue everyone is invited to chime in, and the law or policy is based on what is said by the most people., not who says their opinion the loudest. Do you have a driver's license? Is it mandated? Yes. Does it guarantee or directly prevent you from getting drunk or speeding or stunt driving, and hitting a family with your car? No. Is it meant to minimize the risk of you improperly operating your vehicle? Yes. Seatbelts don't guarantee you won't get severely injured but they help mitigate that risk and in the event you do get injured, hopefully they reduce the severity.
It's a slippery slope, this "people need to worry about others". That's socialism. I reject socialism, and care not for what others think or do. I'll GLADLY go back to beating each other with sticks. In fact, bring it on, it will resolve SO MANY socials issues in about 30 days. All these people looking to defund the police or live in anarchy, I say let's do it.
So you reject public health care, and refuse to use it? We pay into the public health system with the taxes we pay on our incomes, regardless of if we ourselves need it or not, so that if someone needs medical attention the issue of "cost" is not a border to their treatment and convalescence.

Regarding "defunding the police", just to clarify what is actually being referred to; surely we can agree that if a police force needs a $400,000 a pop vehicle designed for and deployed by the military in areas of international conflict for civilian law enforcement, something has gone very, very wrong.
Here's the thing. I live on a mountain. Literally in the middle of nowhere. It's not worth anyone's effort to try and come here and bother me, so I'm stacking the deck in my favour. Of all the things I truly call my own on this world, is my mind and my body. Telling me you have the right to dictate what I do with either, is not negotiable.
There is an alternative to the vaccine; don't shop in person. No one has said you don't get to eat or purchase goods, but at the same time you don't get to make your choices about your body impact others.

I smoke. By your rationale you would have no issue with me sitting at a table next to you and your family enjoying a meal and lighting up. It's my choice to put all the crap in a cigarette in my body, so if you were to ask me to move or put the cigarette out, would you want my response to be "You can't dictate to me what I do with my body"?

And no one is telling you to think in one particular fashion or do anything with your mind.
I never thought I'd move out of the house I was in, but I saw how this could go if people started to believe that everyone "needs to comply". My wife and I have found ourselves a support group in the region, and it's big. Look up parallel society and you'll get an idea. We're set for absolutely everything if things go sideways. Food, medicine, everything up to major surgery (and we're working on that). There's a whole other world happening on the fringe. We obviously don't want that, and right now it's a group of people who contact each other outside of any social media, using encrypted messenger services, snail mail, landlines and ham radio. We're taking this seriously and we "recruited" more during the protests last weekend. There are a LOT of people who don't agree that liberals, conservatives, democrats, republicans, etc have any right to take away our freedoms, especially when the cause is so obviously corrupt.
That's cool, I 100% support that. The long term issue is that every country started with people looking to obtain "freedom". Freedom from religious persecution, freedom to pursue personal economic success, etc. What will always come up and sour that "freedom" is when two desires conflict with one another, then whether by force, by vote, or by class someone's "freedom" gets denied.

It's just base human nature.
Plus, I simply don't care if others are scared, that's not my problem. I don't care if they are scared of me, because I refuse to jab up, that's not my problem. I don't care if people think they have the right to jab me up, that's not my problem. The way I see it, all of these problems are those of the pro vax/pro totalitarians. I have no problem except I can't go into bars. Not a lot of bars at 4000 feet anyway, so I guess I'll just have to suffer.
I don't think the vast majority of people are scared of "you" (I mean we've never met, if you're a 6'5" guy built like a brick house then I imagine that number might be higher than usual), they're scared of getting sick.
Now don't regret adding to the conversation, at least your comment was thought out. It's just not acceptable (to many).
"Not acceptable"? Sounds like you're trying to control what I do with my mind (kidding)
Like I said, I have the luxury of just sitting by and watching this happen. It will be a LONG time before they come looking for my sorry ass, as I'm not a factor. I'm not raising shit on social media (besides this little blerb on a fish forum I suppose). In fact I don't belong to any social media, and one good thing about leftists...they are LAZY. If you don't exist on social media, you don't exist. There's a whole subculture in China that exists outside the social credit score, and that is under a legitimate dictatorship. We're only at the pseudo stage here in Canada. If trudeau tries to pass any "emergency measures" that give him more power, EVERYONE should be marching on Ottawa, not just the truckers. Unfortunately a lot of sheep will watch the cbc, blindly agree with whatever is said (again, bought-n-paid for by liberals using our own tax dollars), and it could get ugly.
I think that's something that keeps getting misunderstood or misrepresented, that it's a "local" or "national" issue rather than the global pandemic it is.
Austria, Ecuador, Germany, Indonesia, Micronesia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan all have or will shortly have vaccination mandate for all adults, and multiple other countries have mandates determined by risk to the general public.

You didn't mention this, but just regarding the entire "drop the population" theory; anyone who would choose to do that via the vaccines when everyone is already on ultra high alert, I would expect such a person to have expired by choking on their own spit long before making it to public office.
This convoy is a great litmus test of each side in this debate. Who will give in and flinch first. I'm thinking the truckers will win, they are strong and trudeau sits and talks like a girl.
It's very showy, but I don't know what the substance is supposed to be. "Truckers should not have to be vaccinated"?. Okay. What do you say when police convoy to Ottawa, followed by the firefighters, followed by retail workers...
It's a slippery slope
at which point is there no point to having access to the vaccine at all and we're left with the full unmitigated cost of the pandemic, not just in terms of national health, but international trade and commerce.
 
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