cloudy water

[unibob]

Trucker pee in a bottle?

 

[Duke]

Trucker pee in a bottle?

lol

 

[Poseidon]

Lol ya I'm looking for a Hanna checker.

 

[reeffreak]

i doubt there is bacteria in that stuff if it doesn't have a expiry date and doesn't need to be kept refrigerated, most likely its either adding nutrients like nitrates, or its just ammonia, either way your cycle still isn't going to happen overnight, part of your tank cycling is growth of the \"real\" bacteria that your tank needs to keep everything in check and adding some bottle of stuff wont do anything to help that happen any faster, At least that's my opinion.

+1 i dont think so either

 

[yveterinarian]

I don't know if I'm missing something but I can't see anywhere on this thread that says the bacteria culture Brandon uses doesn't have an expiry date. 
There is a very good bacteria culture that I always use called Stability and it works very well when cycling.  It does not need refrigerating and I don't know if it's the same as Brandon is using but it comes highly recommended and I have always had excellent results.
Brandon, I don't know if it's a bacteria bloom you are experiencing but it sounds likely, unless you agitated some sand (but I'm sure you thought of that). Possibly clean your filter medium well so that it can trap some more of the bacteria away from the water column and clean it again. Since the Bio pellets were the only change you have made I would maybe take 1/2 out and see if that helps.  Then add the rest back slowly.  JMO

 

[CRJ]

When you run bioplastics or pellets, they cause the tank to cloud over. the idea behind this is that the bacteria suddenly go nuts and start to grow on the pellets, but because theres so much they comsume all the oxygen and waste quickly, causing a mini cycle.

If you have 3 cups in there, start with 1 cup. after 2 weeks, add a second cup, then wait and add a 3rd. after a few months it will start to run low and you can then refill with 1 cup at a time.

If you just add the correct total amount, this is what happens. lower the amount, and make sure you have good surface movement, the tank will be low on oxygen. i went through this 3 months ago.

 

[Poseidon]

surface movement in my tank is great,
i added 1/3 of the total amount of pellets i am supposed to.
all my levels, except nitrates are zero...
phosphates is another story lol,

but i added  pellets to my 100g frag system, did 1/3 of the total usage, and it looks a wee bit cloudy as well....
and thats been up and running for awhile now...
again, levels are all good

skimmer is working fine, all the fish are happy, corals all respond well and look healthy... In both tanks

someone mentioned fish stirring up sand...
i know the clowns do this, but it never crossed my mind that they could do enough to cloud the whole tank...
they are hosting a large bubble coral, and the large female clown makes sort of a ditch, beside it... ill post a pic when the lights turn on tmrw....

and yvett, thanks for the advice, if it persists i will remove 1/2 the pellets.

 

[pulpfiction1]

the problem is if you know nothing about the product you sure have lots to say about it,ive done dozens of tanks with this macro bacteria,not one issue,like bio pellets and other doses like vodka,most run those treatments down as well,Brandon like i said wait it out,you probably added the pellets to soon and too much at once,the bacteria is very strong and works 100%,no matter what others will say,you have used it before.furthermore,if there is proof this product doesnt do what i state,post it here,and i mean actual proof,not hear-say ,like i said,there was so much crap about pellets in the start of them,now almost everyone uses them.

http://www.facebook.com/startsmartcomplete

http://ultraclear.com/ucssca.html

http://www.organicsciencesllc.com/docs/testimonials_startsmart.pdf

http://www.aquariumsupplies.ca/saltwater-startsmart-complete-p-5992.html

http://www.startsmart-testimonials.com/startsmartcomplete.html

 

[Poseidon]

Thanks pulp, I trusted my past experiance and your word on it.... Ill update later today on the tank

 

[reeffreak]

the problem is if you know nothing about the product you sure have lots to say about it,ive done dozens of tanks with this macro bacteria,not one issue,like bio pellets and other doses like vodka,most run those treatments down as well,Brandon like i said wait it out,you probably added the pellets to soon and too much at once,the bacteria is very strong and works 100%,no matter what others will say,you have used it before.furthermore,if there is proof this product doesnt do what i state,post it here,and i mean actual proof,not hear-say ,like i said,there was so much crap about pellets in the start of them,now almost everyone uses them.

http://www.facebook.com/startsmartcomplete

http://ultraclear.com/ucssca.html

http://www.organicsciencesllc.com/docs/testimonials_startsmart.pdf

http://www.aquariumsupplies.ca/saltwater-startsmart-complete-p-5992.html

http://www.startsmart-testimonials.com/startsmartcomplete.html

I know nothing about the bacteria product but my opinion is that if it worked 100% and can cycle a tank with great results in less then half the time it would take normally then this should be the most popular item to ever exist in the hobby. I'm not saying it doesn't work or anything I have no experience with it, but that how I feel about it.

Also with the pellets people still do have many issues with them, cyano, hair algae and cloudy water are all examples of issue you can run into from pellets. Then need to be used correctly to get satisfying results I had huge issues months back when I hooked pellets up to my frag tank I swore I would never use them again, but here I am using them on my display since day one the tank cycles with the pellets and not one stitch of cyano or cyano or cloudy water. I'm not saying it user error on cloudy water just part of what can happen.

 

[unibob]

According to Mops website, this stuff cycles tanks in 24 hours... seems VERY hard to believe, but that is besides the fact. Have you tried doing a water change?

 

[pulpfiction1]

[quote author=Duke link=topic=3632.msg31193#msg31193 date=1353717842]
i doubt there is bacteria in that stuff if it doesn't have a expiry date and doesn't need to be kept refrigerated, most likely its either adding nutrients like nitrates, or its just ammonia, either way your cycle still isn't going to happen overnight, part of your tank cycling is growth of the \"real\" bacteria that your tank needs to keep everything in check and adding some bottle of stuff wont do anything to help that happen any faster, At least that's my opinion.

+1 i dont think so either
[/quote]

less than half the time? 24-48 hours done,and this new product is starting to take off,like pellets with all the old school skeptics,even pellets have taken a few of years to get to the acceptance it has,i think you were right with you first post on this topic,

Ya it's the pellets doing that

 

[pulpfiction1]

According to Mops website, this stuff cycles tanks in 24 hours... seems VERY hard to believe, but that is besides the fact. Have you tried doing a water change?

scratch the water change unless there is something out of line in your tests

 

[Duke]

LOL im not saying it doesn't help speed things up a little bit but nothings instant in this hobby and when you when you see a website called http://www.startsmart-testimonials.com/ to let everyone know how great the product is, that should be the first sign that its a bunch of BS.. and the owners are just fishing people in with clever marketing, its a scam.. those testimonials are BS.. heck most aren't even written in proper English.. maybe over at www.septicmagic.com or perfectpond-testimonials.com u can actually find out whats in this stuff... so u can have a bacteria.. that instantly cycles salt water tanks, fresh water tanks, ponds, septic systems and probably has a few more uses the owners came up with to broaden their marketing scam, I mean browse through their site for a few minutes and form your own opinions..

Some of the highlights..

\"StartSmart works Fantastic!  I put 500 goldfish in a 40 gallon tank and in just a few days no ammonia or nitrate existed in the tank.  We are still amazed at the way your product has worked.\"

\"It works great!  I used StartSmart in a 10 gallon tank with 30 swordfish and didn't lose one!  The water never clouded up, it was perfect.  It's great for helping my customers start tanks right out of the gate.\"

\"I used StartSmart in a 2.5 gallon freshwater tank and in 1 hour the tank was completely cycled.  this stuff is amazing!\"

 

[Poseidon]

If everyone is scared to try a new approach, why are we in the hobby?? I appreciate all the feedback but I think pulp is right, it's something relatively new and it's going to receive alot of hate until it is proven to people. So, why doesn't everyone that doubts it, buy a couple bottles off Phil, it's cheap... And do you own little experiment.

 

[pulpfiction1]

every build i have here has been cycled with the product,without issues,think what you like but brow beating brandon isnt the way to get your opinions across

 

[unibob]

Does pulp know whats in it?

 

[Poseidon]

And if you don't want to try it.... Stop talking about it.

 

[Duke]

If everyone is scared to try a new approach, why are we in the hobby?? I appreciate all the feedback but I think pulp is right, it's something relatively new and it's going to receive alot of hate until it is proven to people. So, why doesn't everyone that doubts it, buy a couple bottles off Phil, it's cheap... And do you own little experiment.

Its not new.. all the info and data on the site is from 2004... you think it would have caught on by now wouldn't it?

 

[pulpfiction1]

its a very potent macro bacteria,write to the manufacturer,im sure they will send you a spec sheet